<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello Cameron, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m also here as a lurker. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">regards, </div><div class=""><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
신상희<br class="">---<br class="">Shin, Sanghee<br class="">Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company<br class=""><a href="http://www.gaia3d.com" class="">http://www.gaia3d.com</a>
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">2015. 10. 21., 오전 11:41, Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" class="">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> 작성:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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Hi Camille,<br class="">
+1 from me for your suggestions too.<br class="">
<br class="">
I'm interested to know who is subscribed to this list? It feels a
bit silly writing to a list that doesn't have anyone listening on
the other end. If you are watching I suggest speaking up and
introducing yourself.<br class="">
Has there been discussions on a private list that I'm unaware of?<br class="">
<br class="">
Camille, if you are a list admin, would you mind letting us know how
many people are subscribed to the list.<br class="">
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Warm regards, Cameron<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/10/2015 1:34 pm, Camille Acey
wrote:<br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks, Rob! <br class="">
<br class="">
If you know of any other resources or have any recent/relevant
forum or OSGeo experience that would inform these two tasks
that'd be great!<br class="">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Rob
Emanuele <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rdemanuele@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">rdemanuele@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr" class="">Chiming in just to say, +1 on those two
suggested next steps. </p><p dir="ltr" class="">I'm not sure if anyone would take issue with
using Google forms as opposed to an open source reporting
system run on OSGeo infrastructure (given the recent
discussions on OSGeo-Discuss about code hosting), but I
think that the ease of use for Google forms would make it
a great choice.</p><p dir="ltr" class="">The article on enforcement is very thorough,
and I think it provides a good method to approach
enforcement in a reasoned and de-escalating way. The line
"Generally conference staff are not equipped for evidence
gathering: we suggest not going around and "interviewing"
others involved." The enforcers are not detectives or the
police, and it makes sense that the sole focus of any
actions would be "<b class="">the safety of your community members
from harassment</b>".</p><p dir="ltr" class="">-Rob</p>
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<div dir="ltr" class=""><p dir="ltr" class="">Thanks, Cameron.</p><p dir="ltr" class="">We are not looking to make any changes
to the CoC at this point. Our job is to: <br class="">
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<ol class="">
<li class="">put together process around how members can
submit reports of CoC violations</li>
<li class="">create specific guidance for LOCs, moderators
and the board about how to deal with those
reports and reporters. <br class="">
</li>
</ol><p class="">We put together a list of places to start here -
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/CodeofConduct_Documents#Resources" target="_blank" class="">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/CodeofConduct_Documents#Resources</a></p><p class="">I suggest we:</p>
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<li class="">use this form as a starting point for Task #1
- <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.drupal.org/governance/community-working-group/incident-report" target="_blank" class="">https://www.drupal.org/governance/community-working-group/incident-report</a>
(not sure if its ok to use Google Forms, that's
what <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://drupal.org/" target="_blank" class="">drupal.org</a>
uses) <br class="">
</li>
<li class="">start an Enforcement page (useful info here <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Responding_to_reports" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Responding_to_reports">http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Responding_to_reports</a>
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</ol><p class="">What do you think? Is anyone else out there? if
so, please chime in! <br class="">
</p><p class="">Camille</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 16, 2015 6:57 PM,
"Cameron Shorter" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""> Hi all,<br class="">
I've drafted a suggested amendment to our CoC
to help us answer the question of what is/is
not in scope of a CoC breach.<br class="">
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Code_Of_Conduct#Classification_Context" target="_blank" class="">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Code_Of_Conduct#Classification_Context</a><br class="">
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<h3 style="font-weight: bold; margin: 0px 0px 0.3em; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-style: none; font-size: 16.764px; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 19.05px; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-image: none; background-attachment: scroll; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat;" class=""><span class="">Classification
Context</span></h3><div style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 19.05px; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.7px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="color:red" class="">This additional section
proposed for version 2.0:</span></div><div style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 19.05px; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.7px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">As
guidance, content should align with a film
classification of: 12+ or PG or similar.
There are many<span class=""> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_content_rating_systems" rel="nofollow" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,102,187);padding-right:16px;background:transparent
url("http://wiki.osgeo.org/skins/monobook/lock_icon.gif")
no-repeat scroll 100% 50%" target="_blank" class="">country
classifications</a>. To remove ambiguity,
we refer to the<span class=""> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Board#Film_and_video_game_classifications" rel="nofollow" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,102,187);padding-right:16px;background:transparent
url("http://wiki.osgeo.org/skins/monobook/lock_icon.gif")
no-repeat scroll 100% 50%" target="_blank" class="">Australian
PG Classification</a>:</div>
<ul style="line-height: 19.05px; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.5em; padding: 0px; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.7px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em" class=""><i class=""><b class="">Parental
Guidance (PG)</b></i><span class=""> </span>–
Not recommended for viewing or playing by
people under 15 without guidance from
parents or guardians. Contains material
that young viewers may find confusing or
upsetting. The content is mild in impact.
<ul style="line-height:1.5em;list-style-type:square;margin:0.3em
0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px" class="">
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em" class=""><b class="">Violence</b><span class=""> </span>should
be mild and infrequent, and should be
presented in "a stylised or theatrical
fashion, or in an historical context".</li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em" class=""><b class="">Themes</b><span class=""> </span>should
have a "mild sense of menace or
threat" and be "discreet"</li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em" class=""><b class="">Frightening
or Intense Scenes</b><span class=""> </span>should
be "mildly frightening" and have "low
intensity"</li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em" class=""><b class="">Crude
Humor</b><span class=""> </span>should be
"mild" or "low level"</li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em" class=""><b class="">Sex,
nudity and drug use</b><span class=""> </span>should
be mild, infrequent, "discreetly
implied" and "justified by context".</li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em" class=""><b class="">Coarse
language</b><span class=""> </span>should be
mild and infrequent, and be justified
by context.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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<div class="">On 16/10/2015 6:38 am, Cameron Shorter
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One thing I've been pondering
since seeing the first few
questions about<br class="">
CoC being discussed is how to
"classify" what is considered a
CoC<br class="">
breach. I'm yet to see any hard
guidelines as to what is/is not<br class="">
acceptable. (And this sucks up
large amounts of bandwidth on
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<div class="">You did good research on this
for FOSS4G CoC so it'd be great if
you could get the ball rolling
here! <br class="">
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Ok, I'll start looking into it.<br class="">
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Looking around for what we can
borrow as a standard reference,
I wonder<br class="">
whether we can borrow from film
classifications:<br class="">
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I'm familiar with the Australian
classifications (being an
Australian<br class="">
myself), which are well defined:<br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Board#Film_and_video_game_classifications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Board#Film_and_video_game_classifications</a></div>
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