<div dir="ltr">Actually Vicky I think you misunderstand my meaning - I meant that the assumption is/should be that Paul is acting in good faith, after all he could have kept quiet until the vote was over and then announced becoming program chair.  There are arguable grounds that Venka is outwith the CoC here.<div><br></div><div>Ian</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 15:38, Vicky Vergara <<a href="mailto:vicky@georepublic.de">vicky@georepublic.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hi<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Past has passed, this would be another case:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">There is this vote for accepting a project<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003391.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003391.html</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">where the voting person belongs to the PSC committee of the project being voted</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">He mentions that he belongs to the project.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">A question was made by me (also member of the PSC of the project being voted)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">about being judge and jury on October 12,<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003392.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003392.html</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The motion passed and the vote was counted on October 25<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003411.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003411.html</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">At the end, the vote was counted because there is no regulation when <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">there is a conflict of interests. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The changes proposed by Jody in</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003395.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003395.html</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">are not reflected in the <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Committee_Guidelines" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Committee_Guidelines</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">yet.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 5:53 AM Ian Turton <<a href="mailto:ijturton@gmail.com" target="_blank">ijturton@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br>This is why we need to leave the assumption of good intentions in the CoC :-( <div><br></div><div>Ian</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Venka</strong> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:venka.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">venka.osgeo@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 11:44<br>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Recused<br>To:  <<a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br></div><br><br>Rather than waiting till the last minute of voting deadline,<br>
Paul should have informed about his withdrawal from the selection<br>
process that moment he accepted to be program chair of the<br>
Calgary bid.<br>
<br>
Venka<br>
<br>
On 12/13/2018 12:27 AM, Till Adams wrote:<br>
> Hi Paul,<br>
> <br>
> many thanks for your information and I think that everyone here knows<br>
> you and believes in what you say. So, I see no issue in the fact, that<br>
> you were not involved in the Calgary team when voting for stage 1.<br>
> <br>
> All the best!<br>
> <br>
> Till<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Am 12.12.18 um 16:00 schrieb Paul Ramsey:<br>
>> FYI, in case anyone is wondering, I’m recused from the 2nd stage 2020 vote as I am program chair of the Calgary bid.<br>
>> But I voted in the 1st stage, what’s up with that? I hadn’t joined Calgary and had no plans to during the 1st stage. Life happens.<br>
>> ATB,<br>
>> Paul<br>
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