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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=CS link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think, better not organise European konference, when International wil be in Europe<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Karel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Maria Antonia Brovelli [mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jachym Cepicky; Karel Charvat<br><b>Cc:</b> foss4g-europe; Peter Baumann<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Conference-europe] when and where<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>In my opinion when International FOSS4G is in Europe it is better to help the local european organizers. In case it is required we can have a special european track where to discuss our items. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>My 2 cents.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Maria<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=Signature><div name=divtagdefaultwrapper><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Vice Rector for Como Campus - Politecnico di Milano<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Mangal","serif";color:black'>Public Participation GIS: a FOSS architecture enabling field-data collection</span><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <a href="http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPVuIVnibF" target="_blank" id=NoLP>http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPVuIVnibF</a>  <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ISPRS WG IV/5 "Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and Applications" - Co-chair - OSGeo Charter Member - ICA - OSGeo Advisory Board Member - SIFET Scientific Commitee Member<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALIA)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 - fax. +39-031-3327321<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>e-mail1: <a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" id=NoLP>maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>e-mail2: <a href="mailto:prorettrice@como.polimi.it" id=NoLP>prorettrice@como.polimi.it</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Da:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> Jachym Cepicky <<a href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com">jachym.cepicky@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Inviato:</b> mercoledì 20 agosto 2014 06.09<br><b>A:</b> Karel Charvat<br><b>Cc:</b> foss4g-europe; Maria Antonia Brovelli; Peter Baumann<br><b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [Conference-europe] when and where</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>OK,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>My feeling from this discussion is to stick with early July and possibly not to overlap with Inspire conference.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>I still hear Karel's voice and understand his concerns. Anybody else would prefer earlier in the year?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>@Stephan: I still see valid option to think about having less talks and more doing during foss4g. Sprinting, hacking, getting teams together.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>@Maria: Foss4g-global in Europe is no reason not to have Foss4-europe as well. Remember Bucharest? It should be little shifted in the topic, but still. Or am I wrong?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>@local chapters, any opinion about time slot? what about ogc events?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>Otherwise, I suggest July, since it had most support so far.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>Jachym<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>Send from cellphone<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>-- <br>Jachym Cepicky<br>e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com<br>URL: <a href="http://les-ejk.cz">http://les-ejk.cz</a><br>GPG: <a href="http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp">http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>Give your code freedom with PyWPS -<a href="http://pywps.wald.intevation.org">http://pywps.wald.intevation.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>On Aug 20, 2014 4:50 AM, "Karel Charvat" <<a href="mailto:charvat@ccss.cz">charvat@ccss.cz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121'>Hi, I think that problem is to decide, for whom conference has to be<br>organised.  Probably for academic sector seems summer better, for commercial<br>sector not to  much suitable<br>Karel<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] On Behalf Of Peter<br>Baumann<br>Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:10 PM<br>To: Maria Antonia Brovelli; <a href="mailto:conference-europe@lists.osgeo.org">conference-europe@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Conference-europe] when and where<br><br>let me add that the semester problem is not just one of the organisers: many<br>participants are students or university researchers, and for them leaving<br>for a week during semester usually is hard, if not unfeasible.<br><br>my 2 cents,<br>Peter<br><br><br>On 08/19/2014 04:02 PM, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:<br>> I'm getting lost.<br>><br>> Just few comments:<br>> - FOSS4G Eu is supposed to have at least 150  people attending but we<br>> have to be prepared in having also more<br>> - FOSS4G Eu is for European people who don't have the possibility<br>(time/money) of going to America and Asia but want to be updated about what<br>is happening in the FOSS4G community. FOSS4G Eu will not be held the year in<br>which FOSS4G is in Europe.<br>> - One of the topic of FOSS4G Eu is INSPIRE, but it is NOT the INSPIRE<br>> Conference. There is more worth of discussing<br>> - Unfortunately I don't have any experience with Code Sprint and therefore<br>I don't know from the logistic point of view what is needed (but I suppose a<br>computer room or at least a room with good wifi connection). How many people<br>are expected to attend a Code Sprint? There are special reasons why a Code<br>Sprint can't be in summer?<br>> - Code Sprint and Challenge, like the NASA WW: if we want to have<br>> students involved the best period is at the end of the semesters (i.e.<br>> summer)<br>><br>> Anyway and concluding: it seems me that the first problem is about the<br>period of the year.<br>> For University the possibility is during summer and therefore I vote for<br>summer. Having the conference at the University means also involve students<br>in the FOSS4G world and this, in my opinion, is an added value. For other<br>people, if the main problem is about holiday, probably knowing the<br>conference dates a year in advance, there are possibilities of organize<br>ourselves.<br>> And, at the end, we don't have to decide the period of the conference once<br>forever. In my opinion we can start with next year.<br>> Cheers.<br>> Maria<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli<br>> Vice Rector for Como Campus - Politecnico di Milano<br>><br>> Public Participation GIS: a FOSS architecture enabling field-data<br>collection<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPV" target="_blank">http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPV</a><br>> uIVnibF<br>><br>> ISPRS WG IV/5 "Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and<br>> Applications" - Co-chair - OSGeo Charter Member - ICA - OSGeo Advisory<br>> Board Member - SIFET Scientific Commitee Member<br>><br>> Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALIA) Tel. <a href="tel:%2B39-031-3327336">+39-031-3327336</a> - Mob.<br>> <a href="tel:%2B39-328-0023867">+39-328-0023867</a> - fax. <a href="tel:%2B39-031-3327321">+39-031-3327321</a><br>> e-mail1: <a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a><br>> e-mail2: <a href="mailto:prorettrice@como.polimi.it">prorettrice@como.polimi.it</a><br>><br>><br>> ________________________________________<br>> Da: <a href="mailto:conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> <<a href="mailto:conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> per conto di Karel Charvat<br>> <<a href="mailto:charvat@ccss.cz">charvat@ccss.cz</a>><br>> Inviato: martedì 19 agosto 2014 04.15<br>> A: 'Stephan Meißl'; <a href="mailto:conference-europe@lists.osgeo.org">conference-europe@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> Oggetto: Re: [Conference-europe] when and where<br>><br>>  From my side is question, if it is feasible to have during one year<br>> two such events in Europe, Karel<br>><br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: <a href="mailto:conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">conference-europe-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>> Stephan Meißl<br>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 5:06 PM<br>> To: <a href="mailto:conference-europe@lists.osgeo.org">conference-europe@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> Subject: Re: [Conference-europe] when and where<br>><br>> Jachym,<br>><br>>> I understand the universities issue, but FOSS4G-Europe is not that<br>>> big (and maybe it will remain rather small), that we can still fit<br>>> into small venues. I liked the organization of Vienna Code Sprint -<br>>> it was done in cooperation with city of Vienna and we fit in comfortably.<br>> I think running a Code Sprint and running a FOSS4G-Europe are two<br>> completely different things in terms of effort but also in requirements<br>for the venue.<br>> Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that FOSS4G-Europe would fit<br>> into the Vienna code sprint venue.<br>><br>>> I do not think Europe Code Sprint has to timely overlap with the<br>>> (next<br>>> year) U.S.-based C tribe, but March-April is IMHO better, then later.<br>>> But it was nice, that we could join events like NASA World Wind<br>>> Challenge  and possibly others as well, not sure, how possible this<br>>> should be, if we move FOSS4G-Europe to march/april then.<br>> Although there is a fairly small overlap I'd appreciate if the Code<br>> Sprint and FOSS4G-Europe don't overlap ;) I don't like the idea of<br>> separate US and European code sprints as I find it important to have<br>> one global OSGeo Code Sprint per year. In my opinion this argument is<br>> even stronger for the Code Sprint than for the global FOSS4G.<br>><br>> If the Code Sprint returns to Europe in 2016 I could image that it<br>> makes sense to run both events back-to-back although this would result<br>> in a quite long event as both are almost running for a week.<br>><br>> cu<br>> Stephan<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Conference-Europe mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org">Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe</a><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Conference-Europe mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org">Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Conference-Europe mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org">Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe</a><br><br>--<br>Dr. Peter Baumann<br>  - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen<br>    <a href="http://www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann" target="_blank">www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann</a><br>    mail: <a href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a><br>    tel: <a href="tel:%2B49-421-200-3178">+49-421-200-3178</a>, fax: <a href="tel:%2B49-421-200-493178">+49-421-200-493178</a><br>  - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)<br>    <a href="http://www.rasdaman.com" target="_blank">www.rasdaman.com</a>, mail: <a href="mailto:baumann@rasdaman.com">baumann@rasdaman.com</a><br>    tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: <a href="tel:%2B49-173-5837882">+49-173-5837882</a> "Si<br>forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis<br>dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec<br>preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, AD 1083)<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Conference-Europe mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org">Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Conference-Europe mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org">Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></body></html>