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    <p>Hi all, <br>
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    <p> After reading the 2025 call-for-venue [1] AND the manifesto [2]
      I notice some different expectations regarding the size of the
      event.<br>
      The manifesto states "FOSS4G-Europe should rather be small than
      big", <br>
      whereas the call-for-venue asks "how to accommodate 500+
      participants"and "expect 400-500 attendees". (but then again, also
      states "we prefer modest costs for attendees")<br>
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    <p>Often there's a "tipping point" around 400 attendees, where the
      rules of "economy of scale" (larger = cheaper per attendee) don't
      apply anymore, <br>
      but instead things get more expensive per attendee. <br>
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    <p>I would encourage potential host cities to mark this tipping
      point in their proposal; at what point is the optimum between size
      and costs for attendees. <br>
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    <p>Kind regards, <br>
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    <p>Gert-Jan<br>
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    <p>[1] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference-Europe-2025"
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    <p>[2]
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Manifesto#FOSS4G_Europe_Manifesto">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Manifesto#FOSS4G_Europe_Manifesto</a></p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24-7-2024 12:06, Besfort Guri via
      Conference-Europe wrote:<br>
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        <div>Looking good,</div>
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        <div>Also, Luis's comments are valid. <br>
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        <div>If you need anything ping me.</div>
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        <div>Best wishes,</div>
        <div>Besfort<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at
          9:00 PM Tõnis Kärdi via Conference-Europe <<a
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          wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Luis
          had some comments but looks like they came in in-person
          reply-to <br>
          not the list. But essentially<br>
          <br>
          On 23.07.24 09:44, Luí s Moreira de Sousa wrote:<br>
           > As a general comment, I see the 1st of September a bit
          short notice, as<br>
           > many folk will be on holidays during August. I suggest
          pushing the<br>
           > deadline to either the end or the middle of September.<br>
           ><br>
           > A couple of items also worth referring:<br>
           > - B2B session/space<br>
           > - Academic track<br>
           > - GeoChicas<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          I can take care of the last "items worth referring" tomorrow
          morning. <br>
          And essentially I would have no problem with the deadline
          extension to <br>
          mid-September (+ 2 weeks from the drafted deadline).
          Objections?<br>
          <br>
          As a northener I have the "Winter is coming" mood already upon
          me so the <br>
          concept of a summer-vacation in August still strikes me as odd
          <br>
          sometimes... but here we are. :D<br>
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          t;<br>
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          On 23.07.24 21:04, Jáchym wrote:<br>
          > Looking good,<br>
          > <br>
          > we can fire it by tomorrow - I have no problem with that.<br>
          > <br>
          > Many thanks for putting it together. Do you have anything
          to help with ?<br>
          > <br>
          > J<br>
          > <br>
          > <br>
          > <br>
          > ---- On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 07:22:14 +0200 *Tõnis Kärdi via
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          > Conference-Europe <<a
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            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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          wrote ---<br>
          > <br>
          >     Hi all,<br>
          > <br>
          >     a draft for the FOSS4G Europe 2025 call-for-venue is
          at [1]. Any (or<br>
          >     all? :D) feedback is much appreciated.<br>
          > <br>
          >     The timeline there is roughly sketched as:<br>
          > <br>
          >     call for venue: 5.08 (Mon) - 1.09 (Sun)<br>
          >     selection period 2.09 (Mon) - 15.09 (Sun)<br>
          >     venue announced: September<br>
          > <br>
          >     and the rest roughly based on Tartu experience.<br>
          > <br>
          >     After a thought I feel we don't really need a call to
          go over the<br>
          >     details for the "call for venue", we can do it in
          writing here or on<br>
          >     the<br>
          >     wiki page too. Is that ok?<br>
          > <br>
          >     All the best,<br>
          >     t;<br>
          > <br>
          > <br>
          >     [1] - <a
            href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference-Europe-2025"
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          >     <<a
            href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference-Europe-2025"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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          > <br>
          > <br>
          >     -- <br>
          >     @tkardi<br>
          >     skype: tonis.kardi<br>
          >     _______________________________________________<br>
          >     Conference-Europe mailing list<br>
          >     <a href="mailto:Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >     <mailto:<a
            href="mailto:Conference-Europe@lists.osgeo.org"
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          >     <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe"
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          >     <<a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference-europe"
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          > <br>
          > <br>
          > <br>
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          -- <br>
          @tkardi<br>
          skype: tonis.kardi<br>
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