[OSGeo-Conf] Firenze Full Proposal - tangential discussions

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:23 PM Luca Delucchi <lucadeluge at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 3 May 2021 at 20:03, Mark Iliffe <markiliffe at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Luca,
> >
> Dear Mark,
>
> > Thanks for your answers. I have no further questions - but I wish to
> urge that special attention is paid to ensure that all those that wish to
> participate in FOSS4G are given the opportunity to do so. Appreciate that
> there is a perceptible driver to be cost-efficient - however, for many
> delegates, a few euros here or there doesn't make much of a difference, but
> for those with not a lot, it is those euros that can transform everything.
> I would strongly urge that FOSS4G ticket prices are not a race to the
> bottom, instead are considered as a mechanism that can bring value to the
> entire OSGeo ecosystem. Your approach of leaning into the OSGeo to
> underwrite your FOSS4G is IMHO the correct one given our circumstances -
> but unless there is a necessity to raise money for OSGeo (which I don't
> think there is... at least not more than 'usual'), my counsel would be to
> reduce the potential profit back into OSGeo's coffers to invest within the
> community.
> >
>
> I fully support this, I wrote a document shared with some members of
> this committee and some of the board, now I share with all of you [0].
>

More continuity and support of organizing FOSS4G with more reuse is a great
idea.  It is also an old idea (search the list for PCO).  I think that
almost all former FOSS4G chairs support something like this.  What we do
starting LOCs from scratch is beyond absurd!

So if it is a great idea, an old idea, and an idea with lots of support,
how do we make it happen?

In my opinion, this is a Board level decision although I'm not sure that
the Board (other than those with FOSS4G organizing experience), have the
knowledge, experience, time, and duration to successfully complete it.  The
Board could pass a motion favorable to this idea and delegating it to the
conference committee (where I think that there is the needed knowledge and
experience to successfully complete it).  The conference committee could
then work out the details and bring it back to the Board to adopt and act
on (i.e. signing contracts, hiring a contract employee, or something
else).  That is a lot of work for the conference committee!  Can we do it?
Maybe.  Sometimes we've done a lot of good work.  Sometimes it is hard to
get more than 3-4 people to even read or vote on something.  The conference
committee has the capability to do this but I'm not sure if we have the
motivation to do it.  Personally I'm trying to do less on the conference
committee and trying to find people to pass along my historical continuity
and housekeeping chores to (with a little success).

And remember, this thread is supposed to be about the Firenze full proposal
(sorry for the tangential distractions).  The fact that these conversations
continually derail other topics suggests that these topics need to get
addressed.

Best regards, Eli


> This is my idea, it can be improved and changed, it could be a
> starting point for next call
> However we are working to find a way to provide live streaming for all
> the rooms but using the provider of the venue is really expensive, I
> contacted CCC but it is difficult to get answers, I will try again.
>
> > May the FOSS be with you!! Even if the members of this committee aren't
> in your FLOC meetings, know that we're behind you every step of the way :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mark
> >
>
> [0]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wbCOD6ZXlEb38b2vcRAh_t_xqTmiboxgtOmcfw-Jy9E/edit?usp=sharing
>
> --
> ciao
> Luca
>
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