I agree with Dave and continue to support option 1.<div><br></div><div>I also support OSGeo continuing to be supportive of, and perhaps being more proactive about, additional regional conferences around the world. I think that having the regular cycle for the main global conference will help with this aim too.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Dave McIlhagga <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dmcilhagga@dmsolutions.ca">dmcilhagga@dmsolutions.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Assuming the "Gathering of the Tribes" is the primary goal of the conference, Option 1 makes the most sense to me. In particular if this is seen as an important vehicle for generating operating revenue for the organization.<br>
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As much as the outreach in all corners of the globe is important -- I think a lot of this can be very effectively achieved through the local chapters.<br><font color="#888888">
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Dave</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 2009-10-30, at 5:11 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:<br>
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Venka,<br>
<br>
While I agree that I need a far less dismissive signifier than<br>
"Other", I feel that a five-step rotation<br>
Africa/Asia-Pacific/Europe/North America/South Americas puts far too<br>
much space between the NA/Europe gatherings. The plain fact is that<br>
the participation in the development communities is overwhelmingly<br>
Europe/NA.<br>
<br>
In addition, our attendance has been far better in EUR/NA. If<br>
Barcelona makes 1000 attendees, which seems highly likely, the<br>
combined Europe/NA attendance (1700) will almost double the combined<br>
Asia/Africa attendance (1000) over this cycle.<br>
<br>
Finally, in financial terms, the situation is even more unbalanced --<br>
the combined $50K net of Asia/Africa is far less than the $120K net<br>
from Victoria alone.<br>
<br>
Anyhow, that is my personal opinion, but at the risk of having my ox<br>
gored let me put another option on the table regards rotation and take<br>
the temperature of the room:<br>
<br>
Option 1: Europe/NA/Elsewhere<br>
Option 2: Europe/Elsewhere/NA/Elsewhere<br>
<br>
Yours,<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Venka <<a href="mailto:venka.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">venka.osgeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Claude Philipona wrote:<br>
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On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 23:26, Paul Ramsey <<a href="mailto:pramsey@cleverelephant.ca" target="_blank">pramsey@cleverelephant.ca</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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I would like to add one more decision before we start 2011 planning,<br>
and that is "regional rotation". Namely that, before we solicit<br>
letters of interest, we clearly state that acceptable proposals from a<br>
particular region will receive preference. Further, I would like to<br>
propose that the rotation be set as Europe/North America/Other, with<br>
2010 being Europe, 2011 being North America and 2012 being the next<br>
other.<br>
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Agree to the regional rotation but not the idea that half the<br>
people planet on this planet are clumped as "others".<br>
<br>
Perhaps we can consider Africa/Asia-Pacific/Europe/North America/South<br>
Americas. I keep Balkan states, Central Asia, Middle East,<br>
Russia in reserve as we have not seen participation<br>
form that part of the world in past of the world at the past FOSS4G<br>
conferences. Hope to see some of them folks in Barcelona.<br>
<br>
FOSS4G will complete its "rotation" in Europe, North America,<br>
Africa and Asia-Pacific, Europe by 2010.<br>
<br>
The next in line would be North America/South Americas<br>
considering the fact that we have done 2 stops in Europe before<br>
reaching somewhere it 2011, we might as well stop again at<br>
North America (if our friends in South Americas do not<br>
strongly disagree).<br>
<br>
That would leave us a choice of stopping again in Asia for 2012<br>
or walking along to the South Americas. Personally, I<br>
hope we could bring FOSS4G-2012 to a place that I would not<br>
feel jet lagged nor require a travel visa.<br>
<br>
And talking about travel visa, if we do decide to stop again<br>
in North America in 2011, the organizing folks should take<br>
care of this issue because half the people living on this<br>
planet whom we now classify as "other" may find it<br>
annoyingly cumbersome to get their travel documents.<br>
<br>
Venka<br>
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