<p>I like, but I would like a statement on what we intend to do about the AGM etc if it's not going to be in Beijing</p>
<p>Jo<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 25 May 2012 21:31, "Cameron Shorter" <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Here is a proposed draft email, probably to be sent by Arnulf on
behalf on the board. Feel free to reword as you see fit:<br>
<br>
Title: FOSS4G 2012 in Beijing - categorised as a Regional FOSS4G<br>
<br>
Body:<br>
<br>
In the interests of transparency, the OSGeo board are noting that
FOSS4G 2012 in Beijing is being considered by the OSGeo Board as a
"Regional FOSS4G Event", rather than as the "International FOSS4G
event". This means that the OSGeo Annual General Meeting, and Sol
Katz award will not be included as part of the program, and possibly
means that there will be less international presence than at the
FOSS4G International event.<br>
<br>
That said, we do anticipate that FOSS4G Beijing will be a successful
regional event, drawing heavily upon the local region for
attendance.<br>
<br>
The growth and maturity of OSGeo software and following interest
from business, educational and government has been fanning a rising
demand for the FOSS4G conference. This demand has led initially to
the development of an international conference - first titled FOSS4G
in 2006 in Switzerland. By 2009 it was becoming apparent that FOSS4G
attracted a very high local attendance who made up over half the
audience. These local attendees usually were obviously interested in
FOSS4G, but were not attending the international event. By 2011/2012
many successful regional FOSS4G events have been running, which have
been capitalising on the previously untapped local interest.<br>
<br>
As such, we anticipate that FOSS4G Beijing will similarly be
successful in capturing the regional interest in FOSS4G and will
stage a compelling regional FOSS4G event. We do encourage all who
are interested to attend.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 26/05/2012 5:44 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">OK,
I’ll make an official motion.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">PROPOSED:
There will be no annual, international FOSS4G event this
year. There will be a regional OSGeo conference in Beijing
in September 2012, but it will not include an Annual General
Meeting nor will the Sol Katz award be announced there.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">My
motion does not lay blame, point fingers, or attempt a
rationale; it simply states the facts as they are.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">-mpg<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:seven@arnulf.us" target="_blank">seven@arnulf.us</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 25, 2012 12:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'conference'; OSGeo Board<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'FOSS4G 2012'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G
Beijing - a regional event<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi, <br>
there is no motion on the floor. My intention is simply to
follow up on a standing request by many people who keep
asking about the event in Beijing. In the absence of a
functioning conference committee I believe it is the board's
job to answer.<br>
<br>
I have no intention of discouraging anybody going there but
it is not going to be comparable to previous global events.
Whoever has the capacities to make it so please step up.
Now. We need an AGM, international keynoters, some board
representation, Sol Katz Award event and other stuff I
currently cannot see and am not expecting anymore. <br>
<br>
Where is the problem in being honest about this? I can
already see the frustration of people and corresponding
media reports after the fact saying that we have 'failed'.
No need for this.<br>
<br>
If someone else sees the need for an official note please
take over, it is not that important to me.<br>
<br>
Best regards, <br>
Arnulf<br>
<br>
--<br>
Arnulf Christl (aka Seven)<br>
<a href="http://arnulf.us" target="_blank">http://arnulf.us</a><br>
<br>
----- Reply message -----<br>
From: "Michael P. Gerlek" <<a href="mailto:mpg@flaxen.com" target="_blank">mpg@flaxen.com</a>><br>
To: "'Tim Schaub'" <<a href="mailto:tschaub@opengeo.org" target="_blank">tschaub@opengeo.org</a>><br>
Cc: "'conference'" <<a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>,
"'FOSS4G 2012'" <<a href="mailto:foss4g2012@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">foss4g2012@lists.osgeo.org</a>>,
<<a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
Subject: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a
regional event<br>
Date: Fri, May 25, 2012 20:20<br>
<br>
<br>
We need to set people's expectations that this is not the
usual annual global event at which there will be large
number of international attendees, the Sol Katz Award, the
annual general meeting, etc.<br>
<br>
-mpg<br>
<br>
<br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Tim Schaub <a href="mailto:[mailto:tschaub@opengeo.org]" target="_blank">[mailto:tschaub@opengeo.org]</a><br>
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:19 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:mpg@flaxen.com" target="_blank">mpg@flaxen.com</a><br>
> Cc: conference; FOSS4G 2012; <a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing -
a regional event<br>
> <br>
> What would be the desired outcome of any motion we
could make? Do you<br>
> want to encourage people not to attend? I doubt that.
Is this just<br>
> about conveying disappointment?<br>
> <br>
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Michael P. Gerlek <<a href="mailto:mpg@flaxen.com" target="_blank">mpg@flaxen.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> >> This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional event
at best<br>
> >> and I believe we must make clear that this is
not going to be ''the''<br>
> >> global meeting of the tribes.<br>
> ><br>
> > Agreed, I've been saying as much for a while now.
I think the board needs to formally make that announcement
asap -- perhaps a<br>
> motion is in order?<br>
> ><br>
> > -mpg<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >> -----Original Message-----<br>
> >> From: <a href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>
<a href="mailto:[mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]" target="_blank">[mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]</a>
On Behalf Of Seven (aka<br>
> Arnulf)<br>
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:06 AM<br>
> >> To: conference; FOSS4G 2012<br>
> >> Subject: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a
regional event<br>
> >><br>
> >> Folks,<br>
> >> on the website at <a href="http://2012.foss4g.org/" target="_blank">http://2012.foss4g.org/</a>
there is still no option for<br>
> >> submitting abstracts although the submission
has been opened -<br>
> >> apparently without notice to any of the
regular OSGeo channels.<br>
> >> Workshops submission ends in two weeks.<br>
> >><br>
> >> No international speakers have been announced
and there are only Chinese<br>
> >> sponsors listed (although interest by regulars
was documented as early<br>
> >> as December 2012). This makes FOSS4G in
Beijing a regional event at best<br>
> >> and I believe we must make clear that this is
not going to be ''the''<br>
> >> global meeting of the tribes.<br>
> >><br>
> >> We should at the same time continue to support
FOSS4G in Beijing as a<br>
> >> regional event and help them wherever they let
us.<br>
> >><br>
> >> On <a href="http://2012.foss4g.org/" target="_blank">http://2012.foss4g.org/</a>
the link to the OSGeo Wiki page in the lower<br>
> >> right should be removed as it is not being
used (and currently points to<br>
> >> a 404).<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best regards,<br>
> >> Arnulf<br>
> >><br>
> >> --<br>
> >> Exploring Space, Time and Mind<br>
> >> <a href="http://arnulf.us" target="_blank">http://arnulf.us</a><br>
> >>
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> >> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
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> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> --<br>
> Tim Schaub<br>
> OpenGeo <a href="http://opengeo.org/" target="_blank">http://opengeo.org/</a><br>
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