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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OK, I’ll make an official motion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>PROPOSED: There will be no annual, international FOSS4G event this year. There will be a regional OSGeo conference in Beijing in September 2012, but it will not include an Annual General Meeting nor will the Sol Katz award be announced there.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My motion does not lay blame, point fingers, or attempt a rationale; it simply states the facts as they are.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-mpg<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>seven@arnulf.us<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 25, 2012 12:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'conference'; OSGeo Board<br><b>Cc:</b> 'FOSS4G 2012'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi, <br>there is no motion on the floor. My intention is simply to follow up on a standing request by many people who keep asking about the event in Beijing. In the absence of a functioning conference committee I believe it is the board's job to answer.<br><br>I have no intention of discouraging anybody going there but it is not going to be comparable to previous global events. Whoever has the capacities to make it so please step up. Now. We need an AGM, international keynoters, some board representation, Sol Katz Award event and other stuff I currently cannot see and am not expecting anymore. <br><br>Where is the problem in being honest about this? I can already see the frustration of people and corresponding media reports after the fact saying that we have 'failed'. No need for this.<br><br>If someone else sees the need for an official note please take over, it is not that important to me.<br><br>Best regards, <br>Arnulf<br><br>--<br>Arnulf Christl (aka Seven)<br><a href="http://arnulf.us">http://arnulf.us</a><br><br>----- Reply message -----<br>From: "Michael P. Gerlek" <<a href="mailto:mpg@flaxen.com">mpg@flaxen.com</a>><br>To: "'Tim Schaub'" <<a href="mailto:tschaub@opengeo.org">tschaub@opengeo.org</a>><br>Cc: "'conference'" <<a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>, "'FOSS4G 2012'" <<a href="mailto:foss4g2012@lists.osgeo.org">foss4g2012@lists.osgeo.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>Subject: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event<br>Date: Fri, May 25, 2012 20:20<br><br><br>We need to set people's expectations that this is not the usual annual global event at which there will be large number of international attendees, the Sol Katz Award, the annual general meeting, etc.<br><br>-mpg<br><br><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Tim Schaub <a href="mailto:[mailto:tschaub@opengeo.org]">[mailto:tschaub@opengeo.org]</a><br>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:19 AM<br>> To: <a href="mailto:mpg@flaxen.com">mpg@flaxen.com</a><br>> Cc: conference; FOSS4G 2012; <a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org">board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> Subject: Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event<br>> <br>> What would be the desired outcome of any motion we could make? Do you<br>> want to encourage people not to attend? I doubt that. Is this just<br>> about conveying disappointment?<br>> <br>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Michael P. Gerlek <<a href="mailto:mpg@flaxen.com">mpg@flaxen.com</a>> wrote:<br>> >> This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional event at best<br>> >> and I believe we must make clear that this is not going to be ''the''<br>> >> global meeting of the tribes.<br>> ><br>> > Agreed, I've been saying as much for a while now. I think the board needs to formally make that announcement asap -- perhaps a<br>> motion is in order?<br>> ><br>> > -mpg<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> -----Original Message-----<br>> >> From: <a href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]">[mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]</a> On Behalf Of Seven (aka<br>> Arnulf)<br>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:06 AM<br>> >> To: conference; FOSS4G 2012<br>> >> Subject: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event<br>> >><br>> >> Folks,<br>> >> on the website at <a href="http://2012.foss4g.org/">http://2012.foss4g.org/</a> there is still no option for<br>> >> submitting abstracts although the submission has been opened -<br>> >> apparently without notice to any of the regular OSGeo channels.<br>> >> Workshops submission ends in two weeks.<br>> >><br>> >> No international speakers have been announced and there are only Chinese<br>> >> sponsors listed (although interest by regulars was documented as early<br>> >> as December 2012). This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional event at best<br>> >> and I believe we must make clear that this is not going to be ''the''<br>> >> global meeting of the tribes.<br>> >><br>> >> We should at the same time continue to support FOSS4G in Beijing as a<br>> >> regional event and help them wherever they let us.<br>> >><br>> >> On <a href="http://2012.foss4g.org/">http://2012.foss4g.org/</a> the link to the OSGeo Wiki page in the lower<br>> >> right should be removed as it is not being used (and currently points to<br>> >> a 404).<br>> >><br>> >> Best regards,<br>> >> Arnulf<br>> >><br>> >> --<br>> >> Exploring Space, Time and Mind<br>> >> <a href="http://arnulf.us">http://arnulf.us</a><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Conference_dev mailing list<br>> >> <a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> >> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Board mailing list<br>> > <a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> > <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> --<br>> Tim Schaub<br>> OpenGeo <a href="http://opengeo.org/">http://opengeo.org/</a><br>> Expert service straight from the developers.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Board mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>