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    Has the board decided what is happening with the AGM and Sol Katz
    award?<br>
    <br>
    On 26/05/2012 7:50 AM, Jo Cook wrote:
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cite="mid:CAF9hD95Ps9MH58C7ok+N4W24sCt10p1-qeMpbvRmSFg2qrhqFw@mail.gmail.com"
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      <p>I like, but I would like a statement on what we intend to do
        about the AGM etc if it's not going to be in Beijing</p>
      <p>Jo<br>
      </p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On 25 May 2012 21:31, "Cameron Shorter"
        &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br type="attribution">
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Here is a proposed
            draft email, probably to be sent by Arnulf on behalf on the
            board. Feel free to reword as you see fit:<br>
            <br>
            Title: FOSS4G 2012 in Beijing - categorised as a Regional
            FOSS4G<br>
            <br>
            Body:<br>
            <br>
            In the interests of transparency, the OSGeo board are noting
            that FOSS4G 2012 in Beijing is being considered by the OSGeo
            Board as a "Regional FOSS4G Event", rather than as the
            "International FOSS4G event". This means that the OSGeo
            Annual General Meeting, and Sol Katz award will not be
            included as part of the program, and possibly means that
            there will be less international presence than at the FOSS4G
            International event.<br>
            <br>
            That said, we do anticipate that FOSS4G Beijing will be a
            successful regional event, drawing heavily upon the local
            region for attendance.<br>
            <br>
            The growth and maturity of OSGeo software and following
            interest from business, educational and government has been
            fanning a rising demand for the FOSS4G conference. This
            demand has led initially to the development of an
            international conference - first titled FOSS4G in 2006 in
            Switzerland. By 2009 it was becoming apparent that FOSS4G
            attracted a very high local attendance who made up over half
            the audience. These local attendees usually were obviously
            interested in FOSS4G, but were not attending the
            international event. By 2011/2012 many successful regional
            FOSS4G events have been running, which have been
            capitalising on the previously untapped local interest.<br>
            <br>
            As such, we anticipate that FOSS4G Beijing will similarly be
            successful in capturing the regional interest in FOSS4G and
            will stage a compelling regional FOSS4G event. We do
            encourage all who are interested to attend.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On 26/05/2012 5:44 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">OK,

                    I’ll make an official motion.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">PROPOSED:

                      There will be no annual, international FOSS4G
                    event this year. There will be a regional OSGeo
                    conference in Beijing in September 2012, but it will
                    not include an Annual General Meeting nor will the
                    Sol Katz award be announced there.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">My

                    motion does not lay blame, point fingers, or attempt
                    a rationale; it simply states the facts as they are.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">-mpg</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
                            target="_blank">conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>
                          [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
                            target="_blank">mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
                          <b>On Behalf Of </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:seven@arnulf.us"
                            target="_blank">seven@arnulf.us</a><br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 25, 2012 12:28 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> 'conference'; OSGeo Board<br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> 'FOSS4G 2012'<br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf]
                          FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Hi, <br>
                    there is no motion on the floor. My intention is
                    simply to follow up on a standing request by many
                    people who keep asking about the event in Beijing.
                    In the absence of a functioning conference committee
                    I believe it is the board's job to answer.<br>
                    <br>
                    I have no intention of discouraging anybody going
                    there but it is not going to be comparable to
                    previous global events. Whoever has the capacities
                    to make it so please step up. Now. We need an AGM,
                    international keynoters, some board representation,
                    Sol Katz Award event and other stuff I currently
                    cannot see and am not expecting anymore. <br>
                    <br>
                    Where is the problem in being honest about this? I
                    can already see the frustration of people and
                    corresponding media reports after the fact saying
                    that we have 'failed'. No need for this.<br>
                    <br>
                    If someone else sees the need for an official note
                    please take over, it is not that important to me.<br>
                    <br>
                    Best regards, <br>
                    Arnulf<br>
                    <br>
                    --<br>
                    Arnulf Christl (aka Seven)<br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://arnulf.us"
                      target="_blank">http://arnulf.us</a><br>
                    <br>
                    ----- Reply message -----<br>
                    From: "Michael P. Gerlek" &lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:mpg@flaxen.com" target="_blank">mpg@flaxen.com</a>&gt;<br>
                    To: "'Tim Schaub'" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:tschaub@opengeo.org" target="_blank">tschaub@opengeo.org</a>&gt;<br>
                    Cc: "'conference'" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"
                      target="_blank">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>&gt;,

                    "'FOSS4G 2012'" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:foss4g2012@lists.osgeo.org"
                      target="_blank">foss4g2012@lists.osgeo.org</a>&gt;,

                    &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org"
                      target="_blank">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>&gt;<br>
                    Subject: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a
                    regional event<br>
                    Date: Fri, May 25, 2012 20:20<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    We need to set people's expectations that this is
                    not the usual annual global event at which there
                    will be large number of international attendees, the
                    Sol Katz Award, the annual general meeting, etc.<br>
                    <br>
                    -mpg<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
                    &gt; From: Tim Schaub <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:[mailto:tschaub@opengeo.org]"
                      target="_blank">[mailto:tschaub@opengeo.org]</a><br>
                    &gt; Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:19 AM<br>
                    &gt; To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:mpg@flaxen.com" target="_blank">mpg@flaxen.com</a><br>
                    &gt; Cc: conference; FOSS4G 2012; <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org"
                      target="_blank">board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                    &gt; Subject: Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G
                    Beijing - a regional event<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; What would be the desired outcome of any motion
                    we could make?  Do you<br>
                    &gt; want to encourage people not to attend?  I
                    doubt that.  Is this just<br>
                    &gt; about conveying disappointment?<br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Michael P.
                    Gerlek &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:mpg@flaxen.com" target="_blank">mpg@flaxen.com</a>&gt;

                    wrote:<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a
                    regional event at best<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; and I believe we must make clear that
                    this is not going to be ''the''<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; global meeting of the tribes.<br>
                    &gt; &gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt; Agreed, I've been saying as much for a
                    while now. I think the board needs to formally make
                    that announcement asap -- perhaps a<br>
                    &gt; motion is in order?<br>
                    &gt; &gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt; -mpg<br>
                    &gt; &gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
                      target="_blank">conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:[mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]"
                      target="_blank">[mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]</a>
                    On Behalf Of Seven (aka<br>
                    &gt; Arnulf)<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:06 AM<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; To: conference; FOSS4G 2012<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing -
                    a regional event<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; Folks,<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; on the website at <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://2012.foss4g.org/" target="_blank">http://2012.foss4g.org/</a>
                    there is still no option for<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; submitting abstracts although the
                    submission has been opened -<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; apparently without notice to any of
                    the regular OSGeo channels.<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; Workshops submission ends in two
                    weeks.<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; No international speakers have been
                    announced and there are only Chinese<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; sponsors listed (although interest by
                    regulars was documented as early<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; as December 2012). This makes FOSS4G
                    in Beijing a regional event at best<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; and I believe we must make clear that
                    this is not going to be ''the''<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; global meeting of the tribes.<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; We should at the same time continue to
                    support FOSS4G in Beijing as a<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; regional event and help them wherever
                    they let us.<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; On <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://2012.foss4g.org/" target="_blank">http://2012.foss4g.org/</a>
                    the link to the OSGeo Wiki page in the lower<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; right should be removed as it is not
                    being used (and currently points to<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; a 404).<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; Best regards,<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; Arnulf<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; --<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; Exploring Space, Time and Mind<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://arnulf.us" target="_blank">http://arnulf.us</a><br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt;
                    _______________________________________________<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; Conference_dev mailing list<br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"
                      target="_blank">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
                      target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
                    &gt; &gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;
                    _______________________________________________<br>
                    &gt; &gt; Board mailing list<br>
                    &gt; &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org"
                      target="_blank">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                    &gt; &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board"
                      target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; <br>
                    &gt; --<br>
                    &gt; Tim Schaub<br>
                    &gt; OpenGeo <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://opengeo.org/" target="_blank">http://opengeo.org/</a><br>
                    &gt; Expert service straight from the developers.<br>
                    <br>
                    _______________________________________________<br>
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