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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Karel,<br>
Welcome to the cookbook team. The process for adding to the
cookbook is described here:<br>
<a
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Cookbook#Editing_this_document">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Cookbook#Editing_this_document</a><br>
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<br>
<br>
On 24/05/2013 3:02 PM, Karel Charvat wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Dear Cameron,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">OK, I am willing to contribute to updating
FOSS4G Cookbook. I agree to do this. Best will be, if there
will be two or three people discuss it and write sugestion.
So I am one<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Karel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
Cameron Shorter [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Karel Charvat<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:b.j.kobben@utwente.nl">b.j.kobben@utwente.nl</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com">volker.mische@gmail.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk">b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Conf] [Foss4g2013]
presentation selection [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Karel,<br>
I like your idea of having an automated system for providing
feedback to presenters, and think a system could be worked
out.<br>
<br>
There could be standard feedback options of:<br>
* Congratulations, you have been selected<br>
* Sorry, community ranked you low<br>
* Due to multiple presentations on this topic, your
presentation was not selected<br>
* Due to multiple presentations from you, this presentation
was not selected<br>
* ... and a few others<br>
<br>
Next step:<br>
* Someone updates our voting software to provide this
functionality<br>
* Then update our FOSS4G Cookbook with a Howto run a
selection process<br>
<br>
I can see there are people who feel passionately about this
topic. Are you passionate enough to do something about it?<br>
<br>
<br>
On 23/05/2013 11:43 PM, Karel Charvat wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">It depends on number of volunteer- revivers,
usually every reader has responsibility for certain papers
and he is making comments. Such number is high, but not
enormous> Some conferences have more</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Karel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.j.kobben@utwente.nl">b.j.kobben@utwente.nl</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.j.kobben@utwente.nl">mailto:b.j.kobben@utwente.nl</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:charvat@ccss.cz">charvat@ccss.cz</a>; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com">volker.mische@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org">foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk">b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Foss4g2013] [OSGeo-Conf]
presentation selection [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Any
idea how much time putting "two three sentences" takes
for > 300 abstracts?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Barend</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On
23-05-13 14:09, "Karel Charvat" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:charvat@ccss.cz">charvat@ccss.cz</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Volker,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Usually
it is similar on any conferences that it is done by
volunteer. But</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">if
there is publishing system put two three sentences
and this automatically</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">distributed
is not so big effort</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Karel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">-----Original
Message-----</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:
Volker Mische [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com">mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com</a>]
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sent:
Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:57 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">To:
Karel Charvat</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cc:
'Massimiliano Cannata'; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org">foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>;
'Barry Rowlingson'</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Subject:
Re: [OSGeo-Conf] [Foss4g2013] presentation selection</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Karel,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I
can again only speak of 2009, but back then the
costs where there to cover</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">the
venue and catering. There wasn't any money for the
selection process. It</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">was
mostly done in the freetime of the LOC members.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I
agree that it would be cool to have such a feedback,
but it would need</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">volunteers
to do so.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Volker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On
05/23/2013 01:18 PM, Karel Charvat wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear
Volker, dear others,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I
start follow discussion about selection process. I
have to say, that </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I
am not very satisfied with Volkers last email.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Why?
The FOSS4G fee is comparable with the costs for
large scientific </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">conferences.
And usually on these conferences authors are
obtaining </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">any
feedback. It is help for them not only for future,
but it could </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">help
also in future development. I think, that all this
could be done </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">automatically
with publishing system. I think, that the budget
for this</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">has
to be adequate.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Karel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">-----Original
Message-----</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">[<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Volker </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Mische</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sent:
Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:03 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">To:
Massimiliano Cannata</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cc:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org">foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>;
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>;
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Barry
Rowlingson</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Subject:
Re: [OSGeo-Conf] [Foss4g2013] presentation
selection </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi
Maxi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">sending
back the results to the authors is really a lot of
work. There </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">might
be abstracts which are e.g. hardly understandable
English. You </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">will
just drop those without actually assign any
relevance to them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The
time is of the LOC is really limited and making
the selection </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">already
takes hours (at least it was the case in 2009).
Heaving even </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">more
overhead would be to much.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Though
perhaps it would make sense to have a chance to
join the </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">selection
process. So people who like to help out and to a
thorough </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">review
can do that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
Volker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On
05/23/2013 12:14 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I
agree that votes are not a guarantee of real
interest. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Suppose
you work for a large company that submit an
abstract, you </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">will
easily have 100 votes of all the employees but
this does not </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">mean
all of them will go to the conference and that
the vote was</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"driven".</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">At
the same time, I like open and clear evaluation
criteria, this </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">avoid
(or at least limit) the acceptance of talk by
"friendship", </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">that
also I believe occur.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Something
like evaluation rating:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">100
points maximum alssigned:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">-
40 for voting rank</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">-
20 for foss4g project relevance</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">-
20 fro.... etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">All
the evaluation should then be sent back to the
authors.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I
Also would like to have some "inspiring" talk
from people "outside"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(not
only well know and great talker, than I like
more content </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">respect
to shows) to better understand: what others do?
How do they see</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">OSGeo?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">What
next? etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">And
I would like to see rotation in successive
FOSS4G as this is the </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">conference
for the community, rather then for the novels to
open </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">source
that may have more opportunities to enter in
contact with open </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">source
in local events organized by local chapters...
so I would like </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">to
see CONTENT, NEWS, VISION rather then SHOWS and
APPEAL.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Of
course, this is only my 2 cents... ;-)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Maxi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On
Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Volker Mische </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com">volker.mische@gmail.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com%3e">mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com></a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
Hi Bart,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
I didn't want to be fierce, but explaining my
experience. I</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">especially</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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felt like replying as you gave me a reality
check quite often on</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">topics</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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where I had a completely different view in the
past.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
My problem with the community voting is, does it
really reflect </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">what</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
community wants? I'm not saying the community is
too stupid to </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">know</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">what</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
they really one and someone else needs to decide
what's best. I think</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
the problem is the open voting. It's easy to get
an bias in there.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
people that actually vote is a small subset of
the people that will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">be</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
at the conference, but the conference should
please the whole</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">audience.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
I for example prefer developer centric talks. I
don't care much about</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
talks that are about "I've used this and that
open source </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">technology</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">to</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
do x and y" or about INSPIRE. Though there are
probably quite a few</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
people from institutions that don't yet use an
open source stack </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">or</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">want</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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to learn how to leverage open source when they
need to meet the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">INSPIRE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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goals. It would be valuable to have such
presentations. This is </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">what</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
LOC is for, they can make the call to include
those as well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
Another example which is a bit artificial, it's
about popular</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
presenters. Let's take Paul Ramsey as an
example, he's one of the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">best</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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speakers I've ever been to at conferences. If he
would submit 10</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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probably all of them would get voted by the
community (being it due</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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great abstracts or to know that Paul is
presenting). But of course</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">you</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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don't want to have one person doing to many
talks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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And finally the problem of people trying to
abuse the public vote (or</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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have friends that try it). You can filter those
out sometimes, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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you then publish the filtered results or the raw
data?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Though I think it's good to have this
discussion. These thoughts have</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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previously only in my brain and never written
down. So it hopefully</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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helps for future conferences to improve the
process.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Volker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On 05/23/2013 06:51 AM, Bart van den Eijnden
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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> Given the fierce responses, I will think
twice about ever making a</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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suggestion on a selection process for FOSS4G
again. Sorry to have</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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spend my time on this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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> Bart</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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> Sent from my iPhone</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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> On May 23, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Bruce
Bannerman</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au">B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au%3e">mailto:B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au></a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> Thanks Volker.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> Agreed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> Can I suggest that if someone believes
that they have a better</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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process, that they volunteer for the LOC of the
next international</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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FOSS4G conference and try it then?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> Bruce</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>
________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org%3e">mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org></a>]
On Behalf Of Volker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Mische [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com">volker.mische@gmail.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com%3e">mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com></a>]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013 1:04 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> To: Bart van den Eijnden</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org">foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>>;
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org%3e">mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org></a>>;
Barry Rowlingson</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> Subject: Re: [Foss4g2013] presentation
selection</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> Bart,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> I second the approach that was used by
the LOC. It's similar to</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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what was</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> done in 2009 (when I was part of it).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> Barry described how they made the
selection in detail. It is</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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important</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> that the way the decision was made is
transparent, not the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> themselves (it would take way to much
to give a reason for </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> accepted abstract).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> The LOC should make the final call and
normally it's pretty </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> what the community voted for (at least
that was the case in 2009).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> Volker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> On 05/22/2013 04:58 PM, Bart van den
Eijnden wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> Barry,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> does this mean you don't have
enough trust in the community</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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voting that</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> they will filter out anything
inappropriate?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> I see this as an unnecessary and
confusing step.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> Bart</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> --</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> Bart van den Eijnden</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> OSGIS - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://osgis.nl">http://osgis.nl</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> On May 22, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Barry
Rowlingson</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk">b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk">mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk">mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk%3e%3e">mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk>></a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:49
PM, Bart van den Eijnden</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl">bartvde@osgis.nl</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl">mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl">mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl%3e%3e">mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl>></a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> But apparently the
selection committee filtered out abstracts</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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based</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> on the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> words open and or free,
which seems a weird and error-prone</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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approach</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> to me.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> We did *not* purely filter out
based on words.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> We looked at the title, short
abstract, and long abstract. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">from</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> those items we could not see
a free/open-source, open-data, or</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> geospatial angle, we *thought
carefully* about whether that</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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should be</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> included in the conference.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> My second talk was about
GeoExt and since I thought since</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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everybody knows</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> GeoExt is about open
source, I did not mention those words</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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explicitly</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> in my</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> abstract.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> Yes, we have enough expertise
on the panel to know our open</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">source</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> packages. Anything we didn't
know, we looked up. However we</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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can't look</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>> up something omitted from an
abstract...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>>> Someone had a great
abstract on big data, but it wasn't</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">selected</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> because it can be used with
both open source software and</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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closed source</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>>> software, and it's not
about open data specifically.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>> An abstract that doesn't
mention any open geospatial technology</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
could</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> well be about doing analysis in
ArcGIS or Oracle Spatial. Its</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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not the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>> committee's job to second-guess
the presenter or ask the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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presenter for</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>> clarification - the abstract is
space enough to provide </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">clarity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">and</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> full details.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> My personal opinion is</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> that if the general public
wants to see this talk, it should</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">not</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> matter if</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>>> the abstract contains the
words free or open.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>> Again, we did not filter on the
words. We took the totality </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">of</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> submission and checked
appropriateness for the Free and Open</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Source</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> for Geospatial Conference,
amongst the other criteria.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>>> Also, if this is filtering
would be done, it should be done</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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*prior*</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>>> to the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>>> community voting phase
IMHO.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>> Personal opinion: there's no
point - the outcome will be the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
same, it</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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>>>> will just require a committee
to review everything before </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">and</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</blockquote>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">after</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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>>>> the community voting. There
were very few inappropriate</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
submissions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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>>>>> Can the selection committee
elaborate on the approach they</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>> I think we've discussed this at
great lengths on this and other</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>> mailing lists. Basically: First
pass: include community vote</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
top 100.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>> Second pass: include committee
vote top 100 (giving us ~130</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
included).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
>>>> Discuss, eliminate anything
inappropriate. Next pass: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">include</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">lower</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> ranked community votes. Next:
lower ranked committee votes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Check for</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> multiple submissions,
similarities with workshop sessions, and</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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make a</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> decision on near-duplicates
(which may include rejections,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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choices, or</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> mergers). Keep going until
coffee runs out or all slots filled.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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We did</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> not run out of coffee.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> I think fuller details will be
posted to the lessons</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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learned/cookbook</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> wiki pages.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>> Barry</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>>
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>>> Foss4g2013 mailing list</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org">Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>>
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>> Foss4g2013 mailing list</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org">Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Foss4g2013 mailing list</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org">Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">--</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">*Massimiliano
Cannata*</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Professore
SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Responsabile
settore Geomatica</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Istituto
scienze della Terra</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dipartimento
ambiente costruzione e design</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Scuola
universitaria professionale della Svizzera
italiana</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Campus
Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tel.
+41 (0)58 666 62 14____</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Fax
+41 (0)58 666 62 09____</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch">mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">_www.supsi.ch/ist
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.supsi.ch/ist%3e_">http://www.supsi.ch/ist>_</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">_______________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Conference_dev
mailing list</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________
Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze databaze
8364 </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(20130523)
__________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tuto
zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.eset.cz">http://www.eset.cz</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________
Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze databaze
8364 </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(20130523)
__________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tuto
zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.eset.cz">http://www.eset.cz</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________
Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze databaze
8364 (20130523)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tuto
zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.eset.cz">http://www.eset.cz</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________
Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze databaze
8364 (20130523)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tuto
zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.eset.cz">http://www.eset.cz</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">_______________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Foss4g2013
mailing list</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org">Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><br>
<br>
__________ Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze
databaze 8365 (20130523) __________<br>
<br>
Tuto zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.eset.cz">http://www.eset.cz</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
__________ Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze databaze
8365 (20130523) __________<br>
<br>
Tuto zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.eset.cz">http://www.eset.cz</a><br>
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<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Conference_dev mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Cameron Shorter<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Geospatial Solutions Manager<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Think Globally, Fix Locally<o:p></o:p></pre>
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Tuto zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.<br>
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