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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">+1, very well said.<br>
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      On 28/08/14 09:52, Steven Feldman wrote:<br>
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      I know there is a strong view that outreach to non US and European
      locations is important for OSGeo, however I would question whether
      there is enough local audience to sustain our annual ‘global’
      event given constraints that many of us have on travel. Perhaps we
      should consider encouraging large locally organised regional
      events run in these key emerging rather than trying to run a
      global event? As the size of the regional communities grows to the
      point where they can sustain a global event with the extra cost,
      sponsorship and organisational overhead then we can reconsider.<br>
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        <div>On 28 Aug 2014, at 14:31, Daniel Kastl <<a
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          <div dir="ltr">Hi Andrew,
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            <div>And I would like to ask, if Eclipse Foundation staff
              would be able to run a conference some other place than
              Europe or North America. Because I looked at the past
              EclipseCon conference locations, and I couldn't find any
              other conference location than in Europe or North America.</div>
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            <div>Thanks,</div>
            <div>Daniel</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:14 PM,
              Bart van den Eijnden <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey
                Andrew,<br>
                <br>
                in the case where the Eclipse Foundation staff would run
                the FOSS4G event, would OSGeo still issue the RFP? Or
                would this be done by the Eclipse Foundation instead?<br>
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                Best regards,<br>
                Bart<br>
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                    On 28 Aug 2014, at 15:09, Andrew Ross <<a
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                    wrote:<br>
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                    > Cameron,<br>
                    ><br>
                    > I'd like to start (continue?) the discussion by
                    simply offering to have the Eclipse Foundation staff
                    run a regular event on behalf of the FOSS4G
                    community (including OSGeo projects, LocationTech
                    projects, & many other related organizations and
                    unaffiliated projects) similar to what we proposed
                    for Washington D.C.. It was a detailed proposal so
                    perhaps a good place to start with and frame the
                    discussion. Unless I'm mistaken, much of it may be
                    quite acceptable and help us narrow what could be an
                    overwhelming discussion down to a few key areas. Is
                    this reasonable?<br>
                    ><br>
                    > For what it's worth, I'm definitely open minded
                    if there's a better approach.<br>
                    ><br>
                    > Andrew<br>
                    ><br>
                    > On 27/08/14 16:54, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
                    >> All good ideas.<br>
                    >> Anyone up for consolidating ideas into a
                    proposal, then obtain agreement from the conference
                    committee?<br>
                    >> A start has been made at:<br>
                    >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook"
                      target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook</a><br>
                    >> In particular:<br>
                    >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Editing_this_document"
                      target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Editing_this_document</a><br>
                    >><br>
                    >> It still requires some integration with the
                    FOSS4G RFP<br>
                    >><br>
                    >><br>
                    >> On 27/08/2014 3:54 am, Andrew Ross wrote:<br>
                    >>> Thanks for the clarification Peter. For
                    what it's worth, I agree that a clearly defined
                    mechanism makes a lot of sense.<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>> On 26/08/14 12:08, Peter Baumann wrote:<br>
                    >>>> sorry, folks, that was not intended
                    to go into this thread but another one. Now I see I
                    have not been fast enough with ESC.<br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>> OK, another attempt to say
                    something meaningful:<br>
                    >>>> OSGeo might license its brand to
                    conferences, and this allows them to send invoices
                    even to universities. Secures OSGeo a fixed income,
                    allowing LOCs to plan ahead.<br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>> -Peter<br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>> On 08/26/2014 05:42 PM, Andrew Ross
                    wrote:<br>
                    >>>>> Sorry Peter, I'm not sure I
                    understand your comment?<br>
                    >>>>><br>
                    >>>>> On 26/08/14 11:22, Peter
                    Baumann wrote:<br>
                    >>>>>> so back with universities
                    :)<br>
                    >>>>>> -Peter<br>
                    >>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>> On 08/26/2014 05:16 PM,
                    Andrew Ross wrote:<br>
                    >>>>>>> Very good point.<br>
                    >>>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>>> A not-for-profit
                    organizer may be a significant benefit and simplify
                    things quite a bit.<br>
                    >>>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>>> A bunch more
                    legal/fiscal issues emerge when you run events and
                    have to handle and transfer funds internationally.
                    The number of organizations who can handle this is
                    fairly limited and those that do so for a reasonable
                    fee even more so. Continuity helps make it
                    worthwhile to figure this out in the first place and
                    stay on top of it as things change over time.<br>
                    >>>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>>> On 26/08/14 10:59,
                    Darrell Fuhriman wrote:<br>
                    >>>>>>>> Amen. We burned at
                    least two months, maybe three, working that out.<br>
                    >>>>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>>>> I think it’s
                    actually really funny that the first piece of advice
                    given to the LOC by OSGeo is “Find a conference
                    organizer to help you.”<br>
                    >>>>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>>>> If that’s the first
                    piece of advice, then it seems pretty clear to me
                    that OSGeo should just have a conference organizer
                    on contract. The benefits of continuity from year to
                    year would be enormous.<br>
                    >>>>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>>>> d.<br>
                    >>>>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2014, at
                    07:54, David William Bitner <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:bitner@dbspatial.com">bitner@dbspatial.com</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
                    >>>>>>>><br>
                    >>>>>>>>> And none of
                    this even discusses the hassles that a grass roots
                    organizing group has with finding an entity to act
                    as a fiscal agent (aka deal with the money).<br>
                    >>>>>>>>><br>
                    >>>>><br>
                    >>>><br>
                    ><br>
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