<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Well said Darrel and Kate, I agree we should not question whether or not we need a CoC.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class="">Bart</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 14 Jan 2015, at 04:22, Darrell Fuhriman <<a href="mailto:darrell@garnix.org" class="">darrell@garnix.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I agree with Kate here, and want to emphasize this line:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"Conferences where bad things happen and there is not a clear plan often do not fair so well.”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It’s really great to say “can’t we just assume everyone will be nice.” The answer is “no”. We can assume that *nearly* everyone will be, but occasionally things happen, most of them minor, some of them genuinely awful.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A CoC isn’t a feel good statement. It’s a public commitment to providing a safe and welcoming environment to all members of the community. Are you afraid of that commitment?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To be honest, I’m a lot baffled, and a more than a little annoyed that we’re even having this conversation. That conferences need a CoC and a plan to enforce it should be taken for granted at this point. Really. I’m not going to have the discussion here. It’s been had in a thousand forums already. CoCs won. Accept it and plan for it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Examples:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All O’Reilly Conferences: <a href="http://www.oreilly.com/conferences/code-of-conduct.html" class="">http://www.oreilly.com/conferences/code-of-conduct.html</a></div><div class="">ApacheCon NA: <a href="http://gi106.gondor.co/code_of_conduct/" class="">http://gi106.gondor.co/code_of_conduct/</a></div><div class="">PyCon: <a href="https://us.pycon.org/2013/about/code-of-conduct/" class="">https://us.pycon.org/2013/about/code-of-conduct/</a></div><div class="">State of the Map US: <a href="http://stateofthemap.us/2014/codeofconduct/" class="">http://stateofthemap.us/2014/codeofconduct/</a></div><div class="">EclipseCon: <a href="https://www.eclipsecon.org/na2014/news/code-conduct" class="">https://www.eclipsecon.org/na2014/news/code-conduct</a></div><div class="">LinuxConf: <a href="http://linux.conf.au/cor/code_of_conduct" class="">http://linux.conf.au/cor/code_of_conduct</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Shall I go on?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">So my questions to the people who question whether a CoC is necessary: </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What if something genuinely awful happens? What will you do? </div><div class="">What about something kind of bad? How will you recognize that, and how will you handle it? Who will do it?</div></div><div class="">How do you know what’s genuinely awful and what’s “kind of bad”? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">These aren’t idle questions. these are exactly the kind of things that you have to plan for. Do you have answers for them?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Darrell</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">On Jan 11, 2015, at 19:41, Kate Chapman <<a href="mailto:kate@maploser.com" class="">kate@maploser.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi All,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are people that have pledged not to attend conferences without a code of conduct. Honestly, I asked for one to be put in place for Nottingham. I would have had to seriously consider if I wanted to keynote at a conference without a code of conduct if the team hadn't understood the need and put one in place. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We say that things are common sense and people should just follow that, but honestly that isn't enough. It is important to have clear guidelines spelled out. I've been a conferences where there was a code of conduct where incidents did happen, but there was a clear plan to manage them. Conferences where bad things happen and there is not a clear plan often do not fair so well. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The Ada Initiative has great resources for designing a code of conduct(1). There are also many other open source foundations we could look up to such as the Python Foundation that have codes for their events and have required such since 2012(2). Recently the QGIS community adopted a code of conduct(3), a move which I applaud. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Kate</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(1) <a href="https://adainitiative.org/2014/02/howto-design-a-code-of-conduct-for-your-community/" class="">https://adainitiative.org/2014/02/howto-design-a-code-of-conduct-for-your-community/</a></div><div class="">(2) <a href="http://pyfound.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/psf-moves-to-require-code-of-conduct.html" class="">http://pyfound.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/psf-moves-to-require-code-of-conduct.html</a></div><div class="">(3) <a href="https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/codeofconduct/codeofconduct.html" class="">https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/codeofconduct/codeofconduct.html</a></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Jachym Cepicky <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jachym.cepicky@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I agree with Cameron's points lower. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm also not sure, that the lack of CoC will "lower gender diversity" (do I assume correctly, number of female attendees will be somehow "lower", right?) and that it's presence on the web site automatically means welcoming conference. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sanghee is writing it perfectly: " No Discrimination, No Harassment are the baseline morals of our general life to live". He also expresses my feelings, about cultural context difference. We should try to understand everybody's cultural context, that's also one of the reason, why FOSS4G is moving around the globe and we can experience all the various cultural aspects.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">From what Sanghee is writing, I have no doubt, LOC will try to make the conference as open and as welcoming to *everybody* as possible.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Anyway: this e-mail is not about "banning CoC for FOSS4Gs", but asking question, whether CoC is really *the* thing, which will safe the conference and guarantee, that everybody will feel great there. Do what you think, is needed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jachym<br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">Thu Jan 08 2015 at 21:12:52 odesílatel Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> napsal:<div class=""><div class="h5"><br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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David,<br class="">
I'm in favour of a Code Of Conduct, but suggest there should be some
tweaking of the words (if using
<a href="https://2015.foss4g-na.org/code-conduct" target="_blank" class="">https://2015.foss4g-na.org/code-conduct</a> text)<br class="">
<br class="">
Reasons:<br class="">
1. At the moment, I think some wording is a bit loose, and open to
misinterpretation between cultures and geographic regions. What does
"Sexual images" mean? Is it nudity? Does a photo of a field trip
with naked natives constitute a "sexual image"? Is the clique
advertisement of a pretty sales girl standing next to a car
considered a "Sexual image"? Should we be using a Middle East
definition of "Sexual image" or "American" where the norm for
acceptable clothes are different? Is wearing a mini-skirt considered
acceptable? (I don't have good words to address this, but suspect
there would be template material somewhere which could be used).<br class="">
<br class="">
2. We should be careful to try and avoid attendees feeling that they
are being lectured to, as if organisors expect attendees to be
guilty. Maybe start with, "In order to ensure a pleasant experience
for everyone, all attendees are *expected to* ... (instead of
*required to* ...)"<br class="">
<br class="">
David,<br class="">
Once finalised, I suggest adding a section about "Code of Conduct"
into: <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook" target="_blank" class="">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook</a></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">On 9/01/2015 4:28 am, Steven Feldman
wrote:<br class="">
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There was also a short CoC for 2013 at <a href="http://2013.foss4g.org/code-of-conduct/" target="_blank" class="">http://2013.foss4g.org/code-of-conduct/</a> which
corresponds to the short version of the 2015 NA CoC
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">David, this is a great initiative. Can we consider
mandating a standard (and evolving through experience) CoC for
all FOSS4G branded events and any other vents that claim to be
affiliated to OSGeo?</div>
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Steven<br class="">
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<div class="">On 8 Jan 2015, at 17:08, David William Bitner
<<a href="mailto:bitner@dbspatial.com" target="_blank" class="">bitner@dbspatial.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="">Great! Thanks
Sanghee!
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Has your team considered adding a code of
conduct to your website? </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">The past two FOSS4G global events have
included CoC's on the website as well as asking
registrants to agree to the CoC by a checkbox on the
registration form.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><a href="https://2014.foss4g.org/attending/code-of-conduct/" target="_blank" class="">https://2014.foss4g.org/attending/code-of-conduct/</a><span class=""> </span>and <a href="https://2015.foss4g-na.org/code-conduct" target="_blank" class="">https://2015.foss4g-na.org/code-conduct</a><span class=""> </span>are some
examples that have been used.<br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">We have received a lot of positive
response from attendees since adding these to the
conferences and have certainly seen an impact in
gender diversity since incorporating CoC's into our
websites along with other outreach and diversity
initiatives. It is a very easy step towards ensuring
that everyone is assured of the expectation of a
welcoming conference! I am sure that other past
conference chairs on this list can speak up to their
experiences as well.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I hope all is going well with planning for
the event!</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Sincerely,</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">David</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:52
AM, Sanghee Shin<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:endofcap@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">endofcap@gmail.com</a>></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class="">
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi
David,
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I’m on the list. You can talk to me
directly. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">With regards, </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Sanghee</div>
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<div style="text-align:start;text-indent:0px;word-wrap:break-word" class="">Sanghee
Shin, Chair of FOSS4G 2015 Seoul <br class="">
"Toward Diversity! FOSS4G Bigbang
from Seoul!"<br class="">
<a href="http://2015.foss4g.org/" target="_blank" class="">http://2015.foss4g.org</a></div>
<div style="text-align:start;text-indent:0px;word-wrap:break-word" class="">Twitter:
@foss4g<br class="">
Facebook: FOSS4G2015</div>
<div style="text-align:start;text-indent:0px;word-wrap:break-word" class="">email:<span class=""> </span><a href="mailto:foss4gchair@osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">foss4gchair@osgeo.org</a></div>
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William Bitner <<a href="mailto:bitner@dbspatial.com" target="_blank" class="">bitner@dbspatial.com</a>>
작성:</div>
<br class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">Dear
Conference Committee,
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">It has recently been
brought to my attention by a
member of our community that she
noticed the absence of a Code of
Conduct for the upcoming Seoul
FOSS4G. I took this as a huge sign
that the work that has been done
by LOCs in recent FOSS4G, regional
OSGeo events, and other technology
and geography events towards
encouraging diversity and a
welcoming atmosphere to all is
indeed being noticed. I have also
been excited to see based simply
on the measure of gender diversity
that the numbers of female
speakers has been steadily moving
up over the past couple years.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I would like to
encourage the Conference Committee
(and I am volunteering to do much
of the leg work) to provide
guidelines for implementing a Code
of Conduct at events for all
FOSS4G/OSGeo related events and to
include diversity initiatives as
part of future calls for proposals
for the international event.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">While I believe it is
too late for the conference
committee to make any mandates to
the Seoul team, is there anyone
who knows the folks on the LOC
that would be willing to help me
reach out to explain the
importance of these initiatives?</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Thanks!</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">David</div>
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