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Cameron-<br>
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while<br>
- my earlier concerns about a CoC remain unchanged<br>
- and this text still is logically flawed and also otherwise not
always sound and complete<br>
- and this text is based on views of one particular culture, not all<br>
...it is much more concise, and overall I'm glad to see some kind of
institution cited now; I cannot find any official status, finding
something from UN might have more authority.<br>
<br>
But again, please don't see this as a nodding; in general, a CoC for
me will be a strong hint that I am not taken serious as a
responsible person, so a strong reason to likely not go there. If
you claim that not me, but others may act irresponsibly then it is
even more so a reason for me not to go to such a strange event. Just
like I am cautious in a place where "wearing knives and guns is
strictly prohibited".<br>
<br>
-Peter<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/20/2015 09:35 PM, Cameron Shorter
wrote:<br>
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Peter,<br>
Good point: A static CoC normative document shouldn't reference a
dynamic wiki page.<br>
I've found this page which is more authoritative, and should be
more static:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/sexual-harassment-code-practice-what-sexual-harassment">https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/sexual-harassment-code-practice-what-sexual-harassment</a><br>
<br>
I'd welcome a different reference to a definition of
"Inappropriate sexualised environment" if someone could point us
at it.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/01/2015 8:27 pm, Peter Baumann
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:54BE1F8A.4030400@jacobs-university.de"
type="cite"> appreciated that positive language is preferred,
attempting to avoid alienating like other texts do. <br>
<br>
hm, re geek feminism: so a normative document (CoC) is being
established which, for definition of a highly ambiguous and
debated term relies on the wiki of a group of people that is not
identified further and does not have any normative legitimation
itself. Further, said link is subject to change without notice ,
without clear regulations when and how (any voting there?).
Scary.<br>
<br>
-Peter<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/18/2015 04:33 AM, Cameron
Shorter wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:54BB29A6.1070407@gmail.com" type="cite">
Following on from this email thread, I've drafted a proposed
Code of Conduct, where I've aimed to address:<br>
* Be concise (concise words get read more)<br>
* Cover key messages<br>
* Include an escalation process for dealing with both minor
and major issues<br>
* Ensure key terms are understood (in particular reference to
definition of sexualised images)<br>
* Couch in positive language<br>
<br>
<b>Tickbox version</b>:<br>
* I agree to act respectfully toward others in line with the
OSGeo Code of Conduct.<br>
<br>
<b>OSGeo Code of Conduct</b>:<br>
<br>
This Code of Conduct collates the collective values adopted by
our OSGeo community which baselines the behaviour we do and
don’t support to ensure OSGeo is a safe and productive
environment for all.<br>
<br>
We invite everyone to be respectful to all, regardless of
race, gender, age, sexual orientation, disability, physical
appearance, national origin, ethnicity, religion, or ideas. We
do not tolerate harassment of others in any form. Examples of
harassment include offensive comments, verbal threats or
demands, sexualized images in public spaces, intimidation,
stalking, harassing photography or recording, sustained
disruption of events, and unwelcome physical contact or sexual
attention. [1]<br>
<br>
We expect all participants to follow the Code of Conduct when
involved in OSGeo activities. This includes conferences,
related social events, and online forums. Participants
violating this Code of Conduct will be asked to desist and/or
make amends. For gross or continual violations, offenders may
be expelled from the event or forum without a refund, and/or
banned from future events or other forums.<br>
<br>
Participants are encouraged to bring any concerns to the
attention of event staff, the forum, forum leader, or OSGeo
Board. We thank all for helping keep OSGeo welcoming,
respectful, and friendly for all.<br>
<br>
[1] Examples of inappropriate sexualised environments are
described here: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Sexualized_environment">http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Sexualized_environment</a>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/01/2015 9:59 pm, Cameron
Shorter wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:54B10604.9020501@gmail.com" type="cite">
Looking around at various Conference "Codes of Conduct", I
found the O'Reilly definition to be eloquently worded, and
less threatening to potential attendees. (Although I still
can't find a clear definition of "sexual images".)<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.oreilly.com/conferences/code-of-conduct.html">http://www.oreilly.com/conferences/code-of-conduct.html</a><br>
<br>
<h1 style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 24px; color:
rgb(51, 51, 51); margin: 10px 0px; font-family: Arial,
Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height:
1.3em; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: left;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">Code of Conduct</h1>
<p style="font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">At O'Reilly, we assume that most people are
intelligent and well-intended, and we're not inclined to
tell people what to do. However, we want every O'Reilly
conference to be a safe and productive environment for
everyone. To that end, this code of conduct spells out the
behavior we support and don't support at conferences. The
core of our approach is this:</p>
<p style="font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">We don't condone harassment or offensive
behavior, at our conference venues or anywhere. It's
counter to our company values. More importantly, it's
counter to our values as human beings.</p>
<p style="font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">We're voicing our strong, unequivocal support
of appropriate behavior by all participants at technical
events, including all O'Reilly conferences. We invite you
to help us make each O'Reilly conference a place that is
welcoming and respectful to all participants, regardless
of race, gender, age, sexual orientation, disability,
physical appearance, national origin, ethnicity, or
religion. So that everyone can focus on the conference
itself, and the great networking and community richness
that happens when we get together in person, we will not
tolerate harassment of conference participants in any
form—in person or online.</p>
<p style="font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">Examples of harassment include offensive
comments, verbal threats or demands, sexualized images in
public spaces, intimidation, stalking, harassing
photography or recording, sustained disruption of sessions
or events, and unwelcome physical contact or sexual
attention.</p>
<p style="font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">We expect all participants—attendees,
speakers, sponsors, and volunteers—to follow the Code of
Conduct during the conference. This includes
conference-related social events at off-site locations,
and in related online communities and social media.
Participants asked to stop any harassing behavior are
expected to comply immediately. Conference participants
violating this Code of Conduct may be expelled from the
conference without a refund, and/or banned from future
O'Reilly events, at the discretion of O'Reilly Media.</p>
<p style="font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">Please bring any concerns to the immediate
attention of the event staff, or contact our VP of
Conferences, Gina Blaber at<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gina@oreilly.com"
style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(32, 124, 193);">gina@oreilly.com</a>.
We thank our participants for your help in keeping the
event welcoming, respectful, and friendly to all
participants.</p>
<p style="font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">Read the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/07/sexual-harassment-at-technical.html"
style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(32, 124, 193);">blog
post by Tim O'Reilly</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>that is the basis
of our functional code of conduct for all O'Reilly
conferences.</p>
<p style="font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">Thanks to the<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://2014.leanstartup.co/code-of-conduct/"
style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(32, 124, 193);">Lean
Startup</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>folks
and the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://jsconf.com/codeofconduct.html"
style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(32, 124, 193);">jsconf.us</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>folks, whose Codes
of Conduct inspired some changes to our own.</p>
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Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
P +61 2 9009 5000, W <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a>, F +61 2 9009 5099</pre>
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- Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann">www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann</a>
mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a>
tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178
- Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rasdaman.com">www.rasdaman.com</a>, mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:baumann@rasdaman.com">baumann@rasdaman.com</a>
tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
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