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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear David, Everyone<br>
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I believe the point you make is valid. And it also applies to any
artifacts including code, bugs, downloads, etc.<br>
<br>
Anything service (free or paid) might change their policies or
disappear. Codehaus & Google code have shut down. SourceForge
has been doing really questionable things. For video Blip.tv &
Justin.tv changed their policies. You could even apply the
argument to social media such as Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin,
Skype, Google Hangout, etc.<br>
<br>
However, the simple fact is it would be a very poor waste to
invest precious community effort re-inventing and maintaining
YouTube, Github, JIRA, Twitter, and whatever else so long as free
high quality/availability services are available.<br>
<br>
In my opinion, use them. Our use of them gives tremendous benefits
and is subsidized by the business models of those offering them
(often selling ads). It would be very difficult for us to tap into
those funds to do the same.<br>
<br>
Specifically in terms of video, my opinion is YouTube is by far
the best place for them today.<br>
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A<br>
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On 20/09/15 02:37, David Percy wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">It seems like we should have a permanent archive on
our own servers, in addition to a public consumption interface
like one of the services we have been discussing.<br>
This starts to get into a long term digital stewardship issue.
We need to perhaps have a longer view... With content tags and
stuff. But not so difficult that it becomes a task that is
hard to manage, and therefore never gets done. Maybe a simple
CMS... Aren't we using drupal already?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Unless we think these talks are more ephemeral due
to the rapidly changing technology.</p>
<p dir="ltr">In which case we can leave the issue in the more ad
hoc status that it is, and just let each LOC deal with it.<br>
Just a thought,<br>
Percy</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Steven
Feldman <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">I don’t see $200/year of
value in Vimeo. Surely we want our content to have the
widest possible real, won’t that come through YouTube?<br>
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<div>On 19 Sep 2015, at 03:10, Andrew Ross <<a
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Bob,<br>
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They are creative commons licensed and
downloading is trivial. Just landed returning
from Seoul so I'll post how to do so tomorrow.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
<br>
A<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On September 18, 2015
5:43:49 PM EDT, "Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Andrew,
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<div>I have a problem with the YouTube
License. Once it’s up there, they get
to use it however they want, forever.</div>
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<div>Also, I (still) don’t see a method
for downloading anything for saving as a
local copy from YouTube (at least not
legally).</div>
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<div>Vimeo let’s you download/copy, and
even pick who sees your content., etc.
I’ll be the first to admit though, that
not everyone will care about this, until
they do, and then it will be too late.</div>
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<div>bobb</div>
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<div>On Sep 18, 2015, at 2:52 PM,
Andrew Ross <<a
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href="mailto:andrew.ross@eclipse.org"
target="_blank">andrew.ross@eclipse.org</a>>
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<div>YouTube has a much bigger
community, is free, and the
search/indexing can't be beat.<br>
<br>
I like Vimeo, have used it a
fair amount, but this is no
contest.. YouTube wins imho.<br>
<br>
A<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
September 18, 2015 11:06:30 AM
PDT, Steven Feldman <<a
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<pre>Is Vimeo preferred to YouTube? Why?
Andrew Ross post 90+ 2013 videos on YouTube at zero cost
Regards
Steven
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B44%20%280%29%207958%20924101" value="+447958924101" target="_blank">+44 (0) 7958 924101</a>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #729fcf;padding-left:1ex"> On 18 Sep 2015, at 18:57, Darrell Fuhriman <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:darrell@garnix.org" target="_blank">darrell@garnix.org</a>> wrote:
Aww crap.
Our vimeo pro account expired, and apparently that took some of the videos offline. I didn’t think that was going to happen — I guess I mis-read the consequences.
FWIW, I think OSGeo should keep this account up and consolidate all the foss4g videos there (including the forthcoming 2015).
Board: is this a service that OSGeo is willing to pay for? It’s $200/year.
Darrell
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"> On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:11, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bob.basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us" target="_blank">bob.basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us</a>> wrote:
Edit . . .
Oops, I mean just FOSS4G. Looks like a few of the videos that were on Vimeo have gone missing, besides mine. At least based on the links from here: Maybe something has changed on Vimeo??
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/sessions/index.html" target="_blank">http://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/sessions/index.html</a>
bobb
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"> On Sep 18, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bob.basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us" target="_blank">bob.basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us</a>> wrote:
All,
I’m looking for the Keeper of the conference videos from FOSS4GNA PDX (2014)
I see a lot of them on Vimeo, but the one I did seems to be missing. It used to be there. Unless I’m using a
bad search filter . . .
Thanks
bobb
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