<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I agree that drafting policies needn't be a board responsibility. I suggested the board because I'd only seen interest from Maxi and Venka. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">If others consider this an important perhaps they'll volunteer? Personally this isn't something that overly concerns me<br><br>Best Regards and compliments of the season </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br><div>Steven</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">+44 (0) 7958 924101</span></div><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Sent from my iPhone</span></div></div></div><div><br>On 18 Dec 2015, at 19:12, Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    Steven,<br>
    I suggest alternative wording choice to "this is definitely one for
    the board", as it implies that the board needs to write such a
    policy. Such sentiment would cap OSGeo's effectiveness to the
    volunteer time of 8 board members.<br>
    <br>
    OSGeo's power (and open source in general) is that we are a
    do-ocracy, and when working at our best we are tapping into the
    creative energy of thousands of volunteers.<br>
    <br>
    Any one of us who cares passionately about an issue should feel
    empowered enough to start a wiki page and start drafting a privacy /
    email policy.<br>
    <br>
    If we have lots of talk, and no action, then maybe we as a community
    are not being as supportive and encouraging of each other as we
    could be. Or maybe the issue isn't important enough for us to commit
    time to.<br>
    <br>
    For my part, this is not a topic I feel strongly enough to craft
    content. But I'd be happy to review content (for English syntax and
    grammar) if someone else starts.<br>
    <br>
    I do agree that the board should have final sign off on such a
    policy.<br>
    <br>
    Warm regards, Cameron<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/12/2015 2:06 am, Steven Feldman
      wrote:<br>
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      It looks like we are going to need a privacy policy (data
      protection etc) and possibly a separate policy on email (the two
      are not the same).
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      <div class="">I don’t think this something that Conference
        Committee can or should do. This is definitely one for the
        Board. I understand that this is an important issue for Maxi and
        perhaps some other board members so hopefully they can produce
        draft versions of the policies, publish them on the wiki and
        then invite comment from the wider community. I doubt this will
        be simple to resolve given the multiple jurisdictions and
        cultures that we encompass.</div>
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      </div>
      <div class="">Hopefully that can be completed in a couple of
        months but I recognise that these discussions can take a while.
        In the meantime perhaps including Ian’s simple draft text <i class="">"by submitting your email address you consent to us
          sharing your details for the purpose of keeping you informed
          of future similar events.  You can unsubscribe from these
          communications at anytime using the unsubscribe links
          provided.”</i> in our registration forms would be a good stop
        gap.</div>
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      </div>
      <div class="">I suggest that we continue to use MailChimp (because
        it has an unsubscribe capability) and we should avoid sharing
        any further contact details amongst ourselves or with external
        bodies until the new policies are in place. </div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
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      <div class="">Cheers</div>
      <div class="">
        <div class="">
          <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:
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            Steven<br class="">
            <br class="">
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        </div>
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            <div class="">On 18 Dec 2015, at 09:40, Massimiliano Cannata
              <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" class="">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>>
              wrote:</div>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="">All,
                <div class="">I believe the point is not if it was nice
                  or not to receive a message for being aware of events
                  (that we will be aware in any case thanks to the
                  social media and mailing lists) but rather if it is
                  appropriate (or even legal?) perform these unsolicited
                  mail campaign and the sharing of these data among
                  person on private and non-regulated way.</div>
                <div class="">We all know that having the data, it
                  doesn't mean having the right to distribute it to 3rd
                  party.<br class="">
                </div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">@Ian: I also don't think a single line of
                  acknowledgement while registering cover the issue. </div>
                <div class="">For instance your proposal of a
                  "non-active OPT-IN" it seems to me not in line with
                  the EU regulation discussed in these days here (but
                  i'n not a lawyer):</div>
                <div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20151217IPR08112/New-EU-rules-on-data-protection-put-the-citizen-back-in-the-driving-seat" target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8px" class="">http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20151217IPR08112/New-EU-rules-on-data-protection-put-the-citizen-back-in-the-driving-seat</a><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">(thanks Helli for the link!)</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">I request, and will add in the next board
                  meeting agenda, to have a deeper discussion and
                  agreement at OSGeo level.</div>
                <div class="">Because I think that the privacy
                  protection is a matter larger then the FOSS4G only and
                  is of concern to the whole OSGeo community as it may
                  apply to several cases.</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">I feel that OSGeo shall define like for
                  the Code of Conduct a Privacy Policy that applies all
                  over the community and that members shall agree to
                  follow when they participate in the community.<br class="">
                </div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">my 0.1 cent,</div>
                <div class="">Maxi</div>
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              <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                <div class="gmail_quote">2015-12-18 10:00 GMT+01:00 Ian
                  Edwards <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:iedwards.pub@gmail.com" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:iedwards.pub@gmail.com">iedwards.pub@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br class="">
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="">
                      <div class="">
                        <div class="">I support Paul and Steven's
                          approach (and thank them for their actions to
                          help keep the community aware of events) --
                          but I think it's also certainly the case that
                          there is always a set of people on our mailing
                          lists who have a strong preference that their
                          details are not shared in a way they do not
                          agree to up front - In fact, I'm sure we would
                          all include ourselves in this category as the
                          type of "spam" we may receive becomes less
                          relevant to our interests.<br class="">
                          <br class="">
                          Another way to reach a constructive outcome
                          may be to discuss on the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/OSGeo-Conference-Committee-f3721662.html" target="_blank" class="">conference <span class="">dev</span></a> list an update to
                          the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Editing_this_document" target="_blank" class="">FOSS4G Handbook</a>/Cookbook
                          with guidelines on opting out when submitting
                          your details.  My preference would be a
                          statement that does not require a lot of
                          effort from our volunteer organisers,
                          something like:<br class="">
                          <br class="">
                        </div>
                        "by submitting your email address you consent to
                        us sharing your details for the purpose of
                        keeping you informed of future similar events. 
                        You can unsubscribe from these communications at
                        anytime using the unsubscribe links provided."<br class="">
                        <br class="">
                        <br class="">
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                          </font></span></div>
                      <span class="HOEnZb"><font class="" color="#888888">Ian Edwards</font></span>
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                                            <div class="gmail_extra">
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at
                                                10:28 PM, Cameron
                                                Shorter <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank" class=""><span class="">cameron</span>.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                wrote:<br class="">
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                                                  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""> Hi Maxi,<br class="">
                                                    I love the
                                                    constructive
                                                    research that you
                                                    have started here.<br class="">
                                                    <br class="">
                                                    Email privacy was
                                                    not as topical when
                                                    foss4g email lists
                                                    started getting
                                                    collected, and
                                                    tracing technologies
                                                    such as mail chimp
                                                    were as assessable
                                                    as mail chimp is
                                                    now. So we are right
                                                    to retrospectively
                                                    develop our policy
                                                    in this area.<br class="">
                                                    <br class="">
                                                    If you are up for
                                                    it, I suggest
                                                    following a similar
                                                    process to what we
                                                    did for getting the
                                                    OSGeo Code of
                                                    Conduct in place.<br class="">
                                                    1. Research best
                                                    practice policies.
                                                    Find one that meets
                                                    OSGeo community
                                                    requirements
                                                    (ideally addressing
                                                    the majority of the
                                                    ideas on this email
                                                    thread)<br class="">
                                                    2. Ideally find
                                                    something that has
                                                    been adopted and
                                                    maintained as best
                                                    practice among many
                                                    organisations. (This
                                                    is the Open Source
                                                    Way).<br class="">
                                                    3. Reference it,
                                                    copy it verbatim,
                                                    tweak it, or collate
                                                    with other sources,
                                                    (possibly into a
                                                    wiki page)<br class="">
                                                    4. Propose to OSGeo
                                                    community for
                                                    adoption. Collate
                                                    feedback, tweak.<br class="">
                                                    5. Have OSGeo adopt
                                                    the policy.<br class="">
                                                    <br class="">
                                                    Warm regards Cameron<br class="">
                                                    <br class="">
                                                    <br class="">
                                                    <div class="">On
                                                      18/12/2015 4:26
                                                      am, Daniel Kastl
                                                      wrote:<br class="">
                                                    </div>
                                                    <blockquote type="cite" class=""> Hi,<br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      I wanted to share
                                                      some thoughts,
                                                      because I don't
                                                      want that Maxi's
                                                      concerns are
                                                      buried under lots
                                                      +1's, that "we are
                                                      just doing our
                                                      best for a
                                                      successful
                                                      FOSS4G". Maybe
                                                      Maxi's initial
                                                      email was a bit
                                                      strong and
                                                      contained the 
                                                      "LocationTech"
                                                      keyword ;-)<br class="">
                                                      I don't think
                                                      anyone (and for
                                                      sure not Maxi)
                                                      wants FOSS4G or
                                                      OSGeo not to be
                                                      successful, and
                                                      nobody is against
                                                      marketing. <br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      However doing
                                                      something with
                                                      good intent
                                                      doesn't mean, that
                                                      it's right, right?<br class="">
                                                      If there is a
                                                      privacy policy, we
                                                      need to respect it
                                                      and handle
                                                      personal data
                                                      (like email
                                                      addresses)
                                                      accordingly. If
                                                      there is no
                                                      privacy policy, we
                                                      probably should
                                                      have one, because
                                                      there are at least
                                                      a few countries I
                                                      know, where not
                                                      being able to
                                                      opt-out or
                                                      receiving unwanted
                                                      emails can become
                                                      a legal issue
                                                      quickly (and cost
                                                      money).<br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      I remember a few
                                                      months ago the
                                                      discussion about
                                                      Code of Conduct,
                                                      where some people
                                                      thought, we don't
                                                      need that, because
                                                      we're
                                                      well-educated and
                                                      friendly people,
                                                      respecting each
                                                      other, etc.. A
                                                      code of conduct
                                                      wasn't something I
                                                      cared about that
                                                      time, because
                                                      maybe it's not
                                                      common in
                                                      countries where I
                                                      live. But I
                                                      learned, that it's
                                                      an important
                                                      document for North
                                                      American
                                                      countries. And I
                                                      think the privacy
                                                      topic is a widely
                                                      discussed issue in
                                                      European
                                                      countries, and we
                                                      have some lessons
                                                      learned about
                                                      services/organizations
                                                      trying to track
                                                      us. <br class="">
                                                      So that's maybe
                                                      the reason, why
                                                      some are not so
                                                      happy to click an
                                                      encrypted link
                                                      with tracking ID
                                                      (and whatever
                                                      else). While I
                                                      think you already
                                                      get tracked, when
                                                      you open the email
                                                      and the
                                                      transparent image
                                                      gets loaded.<br class="">
                                                      Speaking as a
                                                      Japanese citizen,
                                                      it's even seen as
                                                      bad practice here
                                                      to sent HTML
                                                      emails, so almost
                                                      every commercial
                                                      email is text only
                                                      with beautiful
                                                      ASCII art and is
                                                      really hard to
                                                      look at.<br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      While reading this
                                                      thread I had the
                                                      following
                                                      questions
                                                      actually:<br class="">
                                                      - Is the collected
                                                      database of email
                                                      addresses
                                                      available on
                                                      request for every
                                                      local chapter?<br class="">
                                                      - If a local
                                                      chapter passes it
                                                      to some third
                                                      party organization
                                                      (in this case
                                                      LocationTech, but
                                                      replace it with
                                                      any other name),
                                                      what happens with
                                                      these addresses
                                                      later? Are they
                                                      now merged with
                                                      the "LocationTech
                                                      Tour" database or
                                                      the whole Eclipse
                                                      address pool,
                                                      etc.?<br class="">
                                                      - If I didn't open
                                                      my email, because
                                                      I'm not from North
                                                      America, will I be
                                                      removed from the
                                                      database and
                                                      future
                                                      announcements?<br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      I think most email
                                                      addresses
                                                      collected from
                                                      further events
                                                      were for
                                                      registration
                                                      purpose. There is
                                                      no way to register
                                                      without giving
                                                      OSGeo an email
                                                      address.<br class="">
                                                      And even if we
                                                      won't harm anyone,
                                                      we didn't ask
                                                      those people, if
                                                      they would like to
                                                      opt-in for a
                                                      newsletter-like
                                                      service. <br class="">
                                                      So I find it
                                                      somehow OK
                                                      (gray-zone) to use
                                                      the existing
                                                      address collection
                                                      for marketing
                                                      future global
                                                      FOSS4G events
                                                      (it's only once a
                                                      year), but you
                                                      need to understand
                                                      that FOSS4G NA is
                                                      a regional event,
                                                      and that the
                                                      emails probably
                                                      haven't been
                                                      filtered by
                                                      region. If we
                                                      continue this
                                                      practice, will
                                                      then every local
                                                      FOSS4G be able to
                                                      spread the word in
                                                      the name of OSGeo
                                                      using a collected
                                                      address list of
                                                      the past 10 years?<br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      Personally I
                                                      think, that as a
                                                      community we can
                                                      do much better
                                                      marketing than
                                                      using MailChimp.<br class="">
                                                      Maybe it's a good
                                                      idea to add an
                                                      opt-in form to
                                                      FOSS4G
                                                      registrations,
                                                      where people can
                                                      sign up for event
                                                      announcements,
                                                      even with regional
                                                      preferences
                                                      eventually?<br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      Best regards,<br class="">
                                                      Daniel<br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      <div class="">On
                                                        18/12/15 01:09,
                                                        Steven Feldman
                                                        wrote:<br class="">
                                                      </div>
                                                      <blockquote type="cite" class="">
                                                        +1,000,000 to
                                                        what Paul has
                                                        said
                                                        <div class=""><br class="">
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div class="">I
                                                          also passed
                                                          the FOSS4G
                                                          2013 list
                                                          (which
                                                          included names
                                                          for 2011 and
                                                          previous
                                                          FOSSS4Gs) to
                                                          the 2014 team
                                                          in the spirit
                                                          of fraternal
                                                          support to
                                                          future
                                                          FOSS4Gs, I
                                                          believe that
                                                          was the right
                                                          thing to do
                                                          even though we
                                                          neglected to
                                                          have specific
                                                          opt in/out
                                                          option. No
                                                          doubt they
                                                          passed the
                                                          extended list
                                                          to 2015 and
                                                          they have in
                                                          turn shared
                                                          with 2016.
                                                          This is good
                                                          not bad.</div>
                                                        <div class=""><br class="">
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div class="">We
                                                          need to
                                                          separate the
                                                          animus towards
                                                          LT from the
                                                          apparent
                                                          horror at the
                                                          use of a
                                                          ‘commercial’
                                                          service like
                                                          MailChimp.
                                                          Those of us
                                                          who earn our
                                                          living from
                                                          Open Source
                                                          Geo need to
                                                          promote Open
                                                          Source Geo and
                                                          that means
                                                          outreach to
                                                          people who may
                                                          not be
                                                          followers of
                                                          our mailing
                                                          lists, so we
                                                          need other
                                                          channels.
                                                          e-mail
                                                          marketing is
                                                          an established
                                                          way of
                                                          reaching
                                                          potential
                                                          FOSS4G
                                                          participants,
                                                          it is not
                                                          evil, it
                                                          probably isn’t
                                                          spam (even if
                                                          you haven’t
                                                          opted in) as
                                                          long as you
                                                          provide an
                                                          immediate opt
                                                          out from
                                                          further mail
                                                          (which
                                                          MailChimp does
                                                          really well).</div>
                                                        <div class=""><br class="">
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div class="">If
                                                          LT are willing
                                                          to allow us
                                                          access to
                                                          their large
                                                          contact list,
                                                          surely that is
                                                          something we
                                                          should say
                                                          thank you for
                                                          not complain
                                                          about? We
                                                          might want to
                                                          ask ourselves
                                                          why their list
                                                          is so much
                                                          larger than
                                                          ours? We have
                                                          a list of
                                                          several
                                                          thousand
                                                          accumulated
                                                          from previous
                                                          FOSS4Gs, using
                                                          MailChimp
                                                          enables us to
                                                          clean that
                                                          list down to
                                                          interested
                                                          participants
                                                          very
                                                          efficiently by
                                                          providing a
                                                          simple opt
                                                          out.</div>
                                                        <div class=""><br class="">
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div class="">There
                                                          is no reason
                                                          why we should
                                                          not continue
                                                          to maintain a
                                                          growing list
                                                          of people who
                                                          have attended,
                                                          sponsored or
                                                          expressed
                                                          interest in
                                                          OSGeo/FOSS4G.
                                                          The norm
                                                          should be that
                                                          you are opted
                                                          in by default
                                                          as a result of
                                                          past interest
                                                          but every mail
                                                          provides the
                                                          option to opt
                                                          out.</div>
                                                        <div class=""><br class="">
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div class="">Evangelising
                                                          Open Source
                                                          Geo is IMHO
                                                          immensely
                                                          worthwhile. To
                                                          do that you
                                                          need to be a
                                                          bit pushy
                                                          while finding
                                                          the right
                                                          balance. </div>
                                                        <div class=""><br class="">
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div class="">Let’s
                                                          applaud our
                                                          advocates,
                                                          conference
                                                          organisers and
                                                          marketeers,
                                                          not moan at
                                                          them</div>
                                                        <div class=""><br class="">
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div class="">Apologies
                                                          if this is a
                                                          bit ranty (the
                                                          first draft
                                                          was way more
                                                          ranty)</div>
                                                        <div class=""><br class="">
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div class="">Peace
                                                          and goodwill
                                                          to everyone
                                                          for the
                                                          holiday season
                                                          whatever your
                                                          faith</div>
                                                        <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <span style="border-collapse:separate;line-height:normal;border-spacing:0px" class="">______<br class="">
                                                          Steven</span></div>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </blockquote>
                                                    </blockquote>
                                                    <div class="">
                                                      <div class=""> <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <div class="">On
                                                          18/12/2015
                                                          6:28 am, Jody
                                                          Garnett wrote:<br class="">
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote type="cite" class="">Thanks
                                                          for the
                                                          productive
                                                          discussion -
                                                          some of those
                                                          privacy
                                                          policies seem
                                                          to be website
                                                          specific (
                                                          rather than
                                                          for an
                                                          organization
                                                          as a whole ).<br class="">
                                                          <br class="">
                                                          We just are
                                                          rebooting the
                                                          webcom so the
                                                          timing is good
                                                          for a privacy
                                                          discussion. It
                                                          may be easier
                                                          to start here
                                                          and then
                                                          branch out to
                                                          project /
                                                          committee
                                                          email lists
                                                          and a
                                                          foundation
                                                          wide policy. <br class="">
                                                          <br class="">
                                                          We have a
                                                          different
                                                          understanding
                                                          of foss4g
                                                          Maxi.<br class="">
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div dir="ltr" class="">On
                                                          Thu, Dec 17,
                                                          2015 at 4:08
                                                          AM
                                                          Massimiliano
                                                          Cannata <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>>


                                                          wrote:<br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
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                                                          <div dir="ltr" class="">Dear
                                                          Gert, deal
                                                          all,
                                                          <div class="">after
                                                          a few days of
                                                          discussion I
                                                          would like to
                                                          sum up some
                                                          considerations
                                                          to re-focus to
                                                          subject of my
                                                          first e-mail
                                                          and that in my
                                                          opinion should
                                                          led OSGeo
                                                          foundation to
                                                          at least one
                                                          or two
                                                          argument for
                                                          discussion.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">1-
                                                          Some FOSS4G
                                                          events made
                                                          use of
                                                          "aggressive"
                                                          marketing
                                                          strategies
                                                          using mailing
                                                          lists where
                                                          the users
                                                          didn't
                                                          explicitly
                                                          agree in being
                                                          notified.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">2-
                                                          There are laws
                                                          on privacy
                                                          protection
                                                          which are
                                                          different  for
                                                          different
                                                          countries/region
                                                          (this is
                                                          explained for
                                                          example at
                                                          this resource,
                                                          but I'm not a
                                                          loyer: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp">http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp</a> )</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">3-
                                                          OSGeo act
                                                          globally and
                                                          should be
                                                          respectful as
                                                          much as
                                                          possible of
                                                          all the
                                                          existing rules</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">4-
                                                          FOSS4G is the
                                                          OSGeo's label
                                                          of their Free
                                                          and Open
                                                          Source
                                                          Software For
                                                          Geospatial
                                                          conferences</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">Said
                                                          that each
                                                          person or
                                                          organization
                                                          is responsible
                                                          for its acts
                                                          (and is free
                                                          to behave as
                                                          he/she/it
                                                          prefer), I
                                                          would like
                                                          that OSGeo -
                                                          and FOSS4G
                                                          that is with
                                                          no doubt
                                                          recognized as
                                                          an OSGeo event
                                                          - act in
                                                          respect of a
                                                          well defined
                                                          privacy
                                                          protection
                                                          policy with
                                                          is </div>
                                                          <div class="">as
                                                          much
                                                          protective of
                                                          privacy as
                                                          possible.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">Example
                                                          of Privacy
                                                          Policy can be
                                                          found for
                                                          example in:</div>
                                                          <div class="">-
                                                          Apache
                                                          foundation (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html">http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html</a>) </div>
                                                          <div class="">-
                                                          Eclipse
                                                          foundation (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://eclipse.org/legal/privacy.php" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eclipse.org/legal/privacy.php">https://eclipse.org/legal/privacy.php</a>) </div>
                                                          <div class="">-
                                                          Debian (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.debianit.com/privacy-policy/" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.debianit.com/privacy-policy/">http://www.debianit.com/privacy-policy/</a>)<br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">- Software
                                                          Freedom
                                                          Conservancy (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://sfconservancy.org/privacy-policy/" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sfconservancy.org/privacy-policy/">https://sfconservancy.org/privacy-policy/</a>)</div>
                                                          <div class="">- OpenStack
                                                          (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.openstack.org/privacy/" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstack.org/privacy/">https://www.openstack.org/privacy/</a>)</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">From
                                                          a short
                                                          reading all of
                                                          them seems
                                                          state that
                                                          they do not
                                                          pass
                                                          information to
                                                          third parties
                                                          and do not use
                                                          these
                                                          information
                                                          for sending
                                                          newsletter
                                                          unless
                                                          explicitly
                                                          agreed.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">So,
                                                          if I raised
                                                          you attention
                                                          to this hot
                                                          topic and in
                                                          the future
                                                          people will be
                                                          more sensitive
                                                          and respectful
                                                          of privacy
                                                          when they act
                                                          in the name of
                                                          FOSS4G or
                                                          OSGeo I'm
                                                          1000% happy
                                                          and accept any
                                                          blame on me.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">Best
                                                          regard,</div>
                                                          <div class="">Maxi</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">2015-12-15
                                                          23:38
                                                          GMT+01:00
                                                          Gert-Jan van
                                                          der Weijden -
                                                          Stichting <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://osgeo.nl" class="">OSGeo.nl</a> <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gert-jan@osgeo.nl" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gert-jan@osgeo.nl">gert-jan@osgeo.nl</a>></span>:<br class="">
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
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                                                          <div link="blue" vlink="purple" class="" lang="NL">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB">First:
                                                          I took the
                                                          opportunity to
                                                          change the
                                                          subject of
                                                          this thread to
                                                          a less
                                                          shouting
                                                          version (CAPS
                                                          LOCK and spam
                                                          live
                                                          side-by-side
                                                          on my
                                                          email-irritation-scale)</span></p>
                                                          <div class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB">Second:
                                                          Funny to see
                                                          how the use of
                                                          two different
                                                          channels
                                                          (mailing list
                                                          vs. MailChimp)
                                                          kind of
                                                          reflect the
                                                          different
                                                          approaches to
                                                          reach the
                                                          -more of less-
                                                          same goal.</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB">Any
                                                          expanding
                                                          organisation /
                                                          movement /
                                                          community
                                                          comes to a
                                                          point where
                                                          the classical
                                                          channels (like
                                                          a mailing
                                                          list) reach
                                                          their limits,
                                                          </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB">and
                                                          "new"
                                                          marketing
                                                          (yuch!
                                                          marketing==ugly
                                                          & bad!)
                                                          channels &
                                                          methods may
                                                          help to
                                                          stretch beyond
                                                          borders. Which
                                                          comes at a
                                                          cost (as Maxi
                                                          tries to tell,
                                                          I guess).</span></p>
                                                          <div class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB">Food
                                                          for thought
                                                          for the Board
                                                          face2face
                                                          meeting in
                                                          January (and
                                                          for the entire
                                                          community) to
                                                          determine </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB">-
                                                          what our goals
                                                          are</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB">-
                                                          what our
                                                          values are</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB">-
                                                          and how these
                                                          two compare to
                                                          each other.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB">Kind
                                                          regards, </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="" lang="EN-GB">Gert-Jan</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif" class="">Van:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif" class=""> Discuss
                                                          [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
                                                          <b class="">Namens
                                                          </b>Rob
                                                          Emanuele<br class="">
                                                          <b class="">Verzonden:</b>
                                                          dinsdag 15
                                                          december 2015
                                                          21:51<br class="">
                                                          <b class="">Aan:</b>
                                                          David Bianco<br class="">
                                                          <b class="">CC:</b>
                                                          OSGeo
                                                          Discussions<br class="">
                                                          <b class="">Onderwerp:</b>
                                                          Re:
                                                          [OSGeo-Discuss]
                                                          FOSS4GNA -
                                                          SOMEONE IS
                                                          WATCHING YOU
                                                          :-o</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Hey
                                                          David,</p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">The
                                                          emails on the
                                                          mailing list
                                                          were
                                                          cultivated by
                                                          past FOSS4G NA
                                                          attendees,
                                                          people opting
                                                          in in other
                                                          ways, and from
                                                          lists that
                                                          were given by
                                                          members of
                                                          this and last
                                                          year's
                                                          committee. If
                                                          we're spamming
                                                          people who
                                                          didn't opt in,
                                                          it is not
                                                          intentional
                                                          and apologies
                                                          for the spam
                                                          (the world
                                                          certainly
                                                          doesn't need
                                                          more spam).
                                                          We'll take a
                                                          look at the
                                                          list moving
                                                          forward to try
                                                          to prevent
                                                          from sending
                                                          emails to
                                                          anyone who
                                                          didn't opt in.</p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Rob</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
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                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          Tue, Dec 15,
                                                          2015 at 2:48
                                                          PM, David
                                                          Bianco <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:me@davidbianco.net" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:me@davidbianco.net">me@davidbianco.net</a>>


                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          believe
                                                          MailChimp has
                                                          policies
                                                          against adding
                                                          emails to your
                                                          list without a
                                                          user's
                                                          authorization.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/">http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
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                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          Tue, Dec 15,
                                                          2015, at
                                                          10:16, Rob
                                                          Emanuele
                                                          wrote:</p>
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                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
                                                          for pointing
                                                          out that it
                                                          wasn't yet
                                                          posted to
                                                          OSGeo-Discuss,
                                                          I just posted
                                                          it.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">There's
                                                          a one-click
                                                          unsubscribe
                                                          button from
                                                          that mailing
                                                          list, sorry
                                                          for the spam!</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          Tue, Dec 15,
                                                          2015 at 12:31
                                                          PM,
                                                          Massimiliano
                                                          Cannata <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>>


                                                          wrote:</p>
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                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Just
                                                          a funny
                                                          note...</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Nice
                                                          to see that
                                                          LocationTech
                                                          has a FOSS4G
                                                          email (!!!!
                                                          WOW!!!!!) </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">and..... </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">that

                                                          all the link
                                                          on the
                                                          received
                                                          e-mail are
                                                          connected with
                                                          my user_id (I
                                                          have one?????
                                                          Yes) </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">and.... </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">that

                                                          they are
                                                          tracked (!!!
                                                          without inform
                                                          me !!!) </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">and... </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">that

                                                          I have been
                                                          added to a
                                                          list that i'm
                                                          not
                                                          subscribed....
                                                          (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mailchimp.com/about/mcsv/" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailchimp.com/about/mcsv/">http://mailchimp.com/about/mcsv/</a>)</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">But...</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Where

                                                          did they get
                                                          my e-mail
                                                          from?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">why

                                                          thy didn't
                                                          simply post
                                                          the news to
                                                          the
                                                          discussion-osgeo
                                                          list?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">what

                                                          do they want
                                                          to track?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">If
                                                          you want to
                                                          see the
                                                          FOSS4G-NA
                                                          without been
                                                          traced here is
                                                          the link <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://2016.foss4g-na.org/" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://2016.foss4g-na.org/">https://2016.foss4g-na.org/</a></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">#SPAM

                                                          #NOT-SO-FAIR
                                                          #LIKE-MICROSOFT-THAT-SPY-ME
                                                          #SCARY</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Maxi</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">--

                                                          </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="">Massimiliano


                                                          Cannata</span></b></p>
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                                                          SUPSI in
                                                          ingegneria
                                                          Geomatica</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)" class=""></span></div>
                                                          <div style="margin:
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                                                          settore
                                                          Geomatica</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)" class=""></span></div>
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                                                          scienze della
                                                          Terra</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)" class=""></span></div>
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                                                          <div style="margin:
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                                                          costruzione e
                                                          design</span></div>
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                                                          universitaria
                                                          professionale
                                                          della Svizzera
                                                          italiana</span><span style="font-family:
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif;" class=""></span></div>
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                                                          Trevano, CH -
                                                          6952 Canobbio</span><span style="font-family:
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif;" class=""></span></div>
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                                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B41%20%280%2958%20666%2062%2014" target="_blank" class="">+41
                                                          (0)58 666 62
                                                          14</a></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)" class=""></span></div>
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Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000" value="+61290095000" target="_blank" class="">+61 2 9009 5000</a>,  W <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lisasoft.com/" target="_blank" class="">www.lisasoft.com</a>,  F <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099" value="+61290095099" target="_blank" class="">+61 2 9009 5099</a></pre>
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Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P +61 2 9009 5000,  W <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a>,  F +61 2 9009 5099</pre>
  

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