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    <div class="moz-text-html" lang="x-unicode"> <this time CCing
      discuss list><br>
      Steven,<br>
      I suggest alternative wording choice to "this is definitely one
      for the board", as it implies that the board needs to write such a
      policy. Such sentiment would cap OSGeo's effectiveness to the
      volunteer time of 8 board members.<br>
      <br>
      OSGeo's power (and open source in general) is that we are a
      do-ocracy, and when working at our best we are tapping into the
      creative energy of thousands of volunteers.<br>
      <br>
      Any one of us who cares passionately about an issue should feel
      empowered enough to start a wiki page and start drafting a privacy
      / email policy.<br>
      <br>
      If we have lots of talk, and no action, then maybe we as a
      community are not being as supportive and encouraging of each
      other as we could be. Or maybe the issue isn't important enough
      for us to commit time to.<br>
      <br>
      For my part, this is not a topic I feel strongly enough to craft
      content. But I'd be happy to review content (for English syntax
      and grammar) if someone else starts.<br>
      <br>
      I do agree that the board should have final sign off on such a
      policy.<br>
      <br>
      Warm regards, Cameron<br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/12/2015 2:06 am, Steven Feldman
        wrote:<br>
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      <blockquote
        cite="mid:0C1FB064-09E5-4429-9FBC-8B0F37177F20@gmail.com"
        type="cite"> It looks like we are going to need a privacy policy
        (data protection etc) and possibly a separate policy on email
        (the two are not the same).
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        <div class="">I don’t think this something that Conference
          Committee can or should do. This is definitely one for the
          Board. I understand that this is an important issue for Maxi
          and perhaps some other board members so hopefully they can
          produce draft versions of the policies, publish them on the
          wiki and then invite comment from the wider community. I doubt
          this will be simple to resolve given the multiple
          jurisdictions and cultures that we encompass.</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">Hopefully that can be completed in a couple of
          months but I recognise that these discussions can take a
          while. In the meantime perhaps including Ian’s simple draft
          text <i class="">"by submitting your email address you
            consent to us sharing your details for the purpose of
            keeping you informed of future similar events.  You can
            unsubscribe from these communications at anytime using the
            unsubscribe links provided.”</i> in our registration forms
          would be a good stop gap.</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">I suggest that we continue to use MailChimp
          (because it has an unsubscribe capability) and we should avoid
          sharing any further contact details amongst ourselves or with
          external bodies until the new policies are in place. </div>
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        <div class="">Cheers</div>
        <div class="">
          <div class=""> <span class="Apple-style-span"
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              border-spacing: 0px;">______<br class="">
              Steven<br class="">
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              <div class="">On 18 Dec 2015, at 09:40, Massimiliano
                Cannata <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" class="">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>>

                wrote:</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="">All,
                  <div class="">I believe the point is not if it was
                    nice or not to receive a message for being aware of
                    events (that we will be aware in any case thanks to
                    the social media and mailing lists) but rather if it
                    is appropriate (or even legal?) perform these
                    unsolicited mail campaign and the sharing of these
                    data among person on private and non-regulated way.</div>
                  <div class="">We all know that having the data, it
                    doesn't mean having the right to distribute it to
                    3rd party.<br class="">
                  </div>
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                  </div>
                  <div class="">@Ian: I also don't think a single line
                    of acknowledgement while registering cover the
                    issue. </div>
                  <div class="">For instance your proposal of a
                    "non-active OPT-IN" it seems to me not in line with
                    the EU regulation discussed in these days here (but
                    i'n not a lawyer):</div>
                  <div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20151217IPR08112/New-EU-rules-on-data-protection-put-the-citizen-back-in-the-driving-seat"
                      target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8px" class="">http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20151217IPR08112/New-EU-rules-on-data-protection-put-the-citizen-back-in-the-driving-seat</a><br
                      class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class="">(thanks Helli for the link!)</div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
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                  </div>
                  <div class="">I request, and will add in the next
                    board meeting agenda, to have a deeper discussion
                    and agreement at OSGeo level.</div>
                  <div class="">Because I think that the privacy
                    protection is a matter larger then the FOSS4G only
                    and is of concern to the whole OSGeo community as it
                    may apply to several cases.</div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class="">I feel that OSGeo shall define like for
                    the Code of Conduct a Privacy Policy that applies
                    all over the community and that members shall agree
                    to follow when they participate in the community.<br
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                  <div class="">my 0.1 cent,</div>
                  <div class="">Maxi</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">2015-12-18 10:00 GMT+01:00
                    Ian Edwards <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a
                        class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href="mailto:iedwards.pub@gmail.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:iedwards.pub@gmail.com">iedwards.pub@gmail.com</a></a>></span>:<br
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                          <div class="">I support Paul and Steven's
                            approach (and thank them for their actions
                            to help keep the community aware of events)
                            -- but I think it's also certainly the case
                            that there is always a set of people on our
                            mailing lists who have a strong preference
                            that their details are not shared in a way
                            they do not agree to up front - In fact, I'm
                            sure we would all include ourselves in this
                            category as the type of "spam" we may
                            receive becomes less relevant to our
                            interests.<br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            Another way to reach a constructive outcome
                            may be to discuss on the <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/OSGeo-Conference-Committee-f3721662.html"
                              target="_blank" class="">conference <span
                                class="">dev</span></a> list an update
                            to the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Editing_this_document"
                              target="_blank" class="">FOSS4G Handbook</a>/Cookbook

                            with guidelines on opting out when
                            submitting your details.  My preference
                            would be a statement that does not require a
                            lot of effort from our volunteer organisers,
                            something like:<br class="">
                            <br class="">
                          </div>
                          "by submitting your email address you consent
                          to us sharing your details for the purpose of
                          keeping you informed of future similar
                          events.  You can unsubscribe from these
                          communications at anytime using the
                          unsubscribe links provided."<br class="">
                          <br class="">
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                        <span class="HOEnZb"><font class=""
                            color="#888888">Ian Edwards</font></span>
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                                              <div class="gmail_extra">
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                  Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at
                                                  10:28 PM, Cameron
                                                  Shorter <span
                                                    dir="ltr" class=""><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                                                      target="_blank"
                                                      class=""><span
                                                        class="">cameron</span>.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                  wrote:<br class="">
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                                                      class=""> Hi Maxi,<br
                                                        class="">
                                                      I love the
                                                      constructive
                                                      research that you
                                                      have started here.<br
                                                        class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      Email privacy was
                                                      not as topical
                                                      when foss4g email
                                                      lists started
                                                      getting collected,
                                                      and tracing
                                                      technologies such
                                                      as mail chimp were
                                                      as assessable as
                                                      mail chimp is now.
                                                      So we are right to
                                                      retrospectively
                                                      develop our policy
                                                      in this area.<br
                                                        class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      If you are up for
                                                      it, I suggest
                                                      following a
                                                      similar process to
                                                      what we did for
                                                      getting the OSGeo
                                                      Code of Conduct in
                                                      place.<br class="">
                                                      1. Research best
                                                      practice policies.
                                                      Find one that
                                                      meets OSGeo
                                                      community
                                                      requirements
                                                      (ideally
                                                      addressing the
                                                      majority of the
                                                      ideas on this
                                                      email thread)<br
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                                                      2. Ideally find
                                                      something that has
                                                      been adopted and
                                                      maintained as best
                                                      practice among
                                                      many
                                                      organisations.
                                                      (This is the Open
                                                      Source Way).<br
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                                                      3. Reference it,
                                                      copy it verbatim,
                                                      tweak it, or
                                                      collate with other
                                                      sources, (possibly
                                                      into a wiki page)<br
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                                                      4. Propose to
                                                      OSGeo community
                                                      for adoption.
                                                      Collate feedback,
                                                      tweak.<br class="">
                                                      5. Have OSGeo
                                                      adopt the policy.<br
                                                        class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      Warm regards
                                                      Cameron<br
                                                        class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      <div class="">On
                                                        18/12/2015 4:26
                                                        am, Daniel Kastl
                                                        wrote:<br
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                                                      <blockquote
                                                        type="cite"
                                                        class=""> Hi,<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        I wanted to
                                                        share some
                                                        thoughts,
                                                        because I don't
                                                        want that Maxi's
                                                        concerns are
                                                        buried under
                                                        lots +1's, that
                                                        "we are just
                                                        doing our best
                                                        for a successful
                                                        FOSS4G". Maybe
                                                        Maxi's initial
                                                        email was a bit
                                                        strong and
                                                        contained the 
                                                        "LocationTech"
                                                        keyword ;-)<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        I don't think
                                                        anyone (and for
                                                        sure not Maxi)
                                                        wants FOSS4G or
                                                        OSGeo not to be
                                                        successful, and
                                                        nobody is
                                                        against
                                                        marketing. <br
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                                                        <br class="">
                                                        However doing
                                                        something with
                                                        good intent
                                                        doesn't mean,
                                                        that it's right,
                                                        right?<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        If there is a
                                                        privacy policy,
                                                        we need to
                                                        respect it and
                                                        handle personal
                                                        data (like email
                                                        addresses)
                                                        accordingly. If
                                                        there is no
                                                        privacy policy,
                                                        we probably
                                                        should have one,
                                                        because there
                                                        are at least a
                                                        few countries I
                                                        know, where not
                                                        being able to
                                                        opt-out or
                                                        receiving
                                                        unwanted emails
                                                        can become a
                                                        legal issue
                                                        quickly (and
                                                        cost money).<br
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                                                        <br class="">
                                                        I remember a few
                                                        months ago the
                                                        discussion about
                                                        Code of Conduct,
                                                        where some
                                                        people thought,
                                                        we don't need
                                                        that, because
                                                        we're
                                                        well-educated
                                                        and friendly
                                                        people,
                                                        respecting each
                                                        other, etc.. A
                                                        code of conduct
                                                        wasn't something
                                                        I cared about
                                                        that time,
                                                        because maybe
                                                        it's not common
                                                        in countries
                                                        where I live.
                                                        But I learned,
                                                        that it's an
                                                        important
                                                        document for
                                                        North American
                                                        countries. And I
                                                        think the
                                                        privacy topic is
                                                        a widely
                                                        discussed issue
                                                        in European
                                                        countries, and
                                                        we have some
                                                        lessons learned
                                                        about
                                                        services/organizations
                                                        trying to track
                                                        us. <br
                                                          class="">
                                                        So that's maybe
                                                        the reason, why
                                                        some are not so
                                                        happy to click
                                                        an encrypted
                                                        link with
                                                        tracking ID (and
                                                        whatever else).
                                                        While I think
                                                        you already get
                                                        tracked, when
                                                        you open the
                                                        email and the
                                                        transparent
                                                        image gets
                                                        loaded.<br
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                                                        Speaking as a
                                                        Japanese
                                                        citizen, it's
                                                        even seen as bad
                                                        practice here to
                                                        sent HTML
                                                        emails, so
                                                        almost every
                                                        commercial email
                                                        is text only
                                                        with beautiful
                                                        ASCII art and is
                                                        really hard to
                                                        look at.<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        While reading
                                                        this thread I
                                                        had the
                                                        following
                                                        questions
                                                        actually:<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        - Is the
                                                        collected
                                                        database of
                                                        email addresses
                                                        available on
                                                        request for
                                                        every local
                                                        chapter?<br
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                                                        - If a local
                                                        chapter passes
                                                        it to some third
                                                        party
                                                        organization (in
                                                        this case
                                                        LocationTech,
                                                        but replace it
                                                        with any other
                                                        name), what
                                                        happens with
                                                        these addresses
                                                        later? Are they
                                                        now merged with
                                                        the
                                                        "LocationTech
                                                        Tour" database
                                                        or the whole
                                                        Eclipse address
                                                        pool, etc.?<br
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                                                        - If I didn't
                                                        open my email,
                                                        because I'm not
                                                        from North
                                                        America, will I
                                                        be removed from
                                                        the database and
                                                        future
                                                        announcements?<br
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                                                        <br class="">
                                                        I think most
                                                        email addresses
                                                        collected from
                                                        further events
                                                        were for
                                                        registration
                                                        purpose. There
                                                        is no way to
                                                        register without
                                                        giving OSGeo an
                                                        email address.<br
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                                                        And even if we
                                                        won't harm
                                                        anyone, we
                                                        didn't ask those
                                                        people, if they
                                                        would like to
                                                        opt-in for a
                                                        newsletter-like
                                                        service. <br
                                                          class="">
                                                        So I find it
                                                        somehow OK
                                                        (gray-zone) to
                                                        use the existing
                                                        address
                                                        collection for
                                                        marketing future
                                                        global FOSS4G
                                                        events (it's
                                                        only once a
                                                        year), but you
                                                        need to
                                                        understand that
                                                        FOSS4G NA is a
                                                        regional event,
                                                        and that the
                                                        emails probably
                                                        haven't been
                                                        filtered by
                                                        region. If we
                                                        continue this
                                                        practice, will
                                                        then every local
                                                        FOSS4G be able
                                                        to spread the
                                                        word in the name
                                                        of OSGeo using a
                                                        collected
                                                        address list of
                                                        the past 10
                                                        years?<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        Personally I
                                                        think, that as a
                                                        community we can
                                                        do much better
                                                        marketing than
                                                        using MailChimp.<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        Maybe it's a
                                                        good idea to add
                                                        an opt-in form
                                                        to FOSS4G
                                                        registrations,
                                                        where people can
                                                        sign up for
                                                        event
                                                        announcements,
                                                        even with
                                                        regional
                                                        preferences
                                                        eventually?<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        Best regards,<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        Daniel<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <div class="">On
                                                          18/12/15
                                                          01:09, Steven
                                                          Feldman wrote:<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote
                                                          type="cite"
                                                          class="">
                                                          +1,000,000 to
                                                          what Paul has
                                                          said
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">I
                                                          also passed
                                                          the FOSS4G
                                                          2013 list
                                                          (which
                                                          included names
                                                          for 2011 and
                                                          previous
                                                          FOSSS4Gs) to
                                                          the 2014 team
                                                          in the spirit
                                                          of fraternal
                                                          support to
                                                          future
                                                          FOSS4Gs, I
                                                          believe that
                                                          was the right
                                                          thing to do
                                                          even though we
                                                          neglected to
                                                          have specific
                                                          opt in/out
                                                          option. No
                                                          doubt they
                                                          passed the
                                                          extended list
                                                          to 2015 and
                                                          they have in
                                                          turn shared
                                                          with 2016.
                                                          This is good
                                                          not bad.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">We

                                                          need to
                                                          separate the
                                                          animus towards
                                                          LT from the
                                                          apparent
                                                          horror at the
                                                          use of a
                                                          ‘commercial’
                                                          service like
                                                          MailChimp.
                                                          Those of us
                                                          who earn our
                                                          living from
                                                          Open Source
                                                          Geo need to
                                                          promote Open
                                                          Source Geo and
                                                          that means
                                                          outreach to
                                                          people who may
                                                          not be
                                                          followers of
                                                          our mailing
                                                          lists, so we
                                                          need other
                                                          channels.
                                                          e-mail
                                                          marketing is
                                                          an established
                                                          way of
                                                          reaching
                                                          potential
                                                          FOSS4G
                                                          participants,
                                                          it is not
                                                          evil, it
                                                          probably isn’t
                                                          spam (even if
                                                          you haven’t
                                                          opted in) as
                                                          long as you
                                                          provide an
                                                          immediate opt
                                                          out from
                                                          further mail
                                                          (which
                                                          MailChimp does
                                                          really well).</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">If

                                                          LT are willing
                                                          to allow us
                                                          access to
                                                          their large
                                                          contact list,
                                                          surely that is
                                                          something we
                                                          should say
                                                          thank you for
                                                          not complain
                                                          about? We
                                                          might want to
                                                          ask ourselves
                                                          why their list
                                                          is so much
                                                          larger than
                                                          ours? We have
                                                          a list of
                                                          several
                                                          thousand
                                                          accumulated
                                                          from previous
                                                          FOSS4Gs, using
                                                          MailChimp
                                                          enables us to
                                                          clean that
                                                          list down to
                                                          interested
                                                          participants
                                                          very
                                                          efficiently by
                                                          providing a
                                                          simple opt
                                                          out.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">There

                                                          is no reason
                                                          why we should
                                                          not continue
                                                          to maintain a
                                                          growing list
                                                          of people who
                                                          have attended,
                                                          sponsored or
                                                          expressed
                                                          interest in
                                                          OSGeo/FOSS4G.
                                                          The norm
                                                          should be that
                                                          you are opted
                                                          in by default
                                                          as a result of
                                                          past interest
                                                          but every mail
                                                          provides the
                                                          option to opt
                                                          out.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">Evangelising

                                                          Open Source
                                                          Geo is IMHO
                                                          immensely
                                                          worthwhile. To
                                                          do that you
                                                          need to be a
                                                          bit pushy
                                                          while finding
                                                          the right
                                                          balance. </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">Let’s

                                                          applaud our
                                                          advocates,
                                                          conference
                                                          organisers and
                                                          marketeers,
                                                          not moan at
                                                          them</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">Apologies

                                                          if this is a
                                                          bit ranty (the
                                                          first draft
                                                          was way more
                                                          ranty)</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">Peace

                                                          and goodwill
                                                          to everyone
                                                          for the
                                                          holiday season
                                                          whatever your
                                                          faith</div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <span
                                                          style="border-collapse:separate;line-height:normal;border-spacing:0px"
                                                          class="">______<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          Steven</span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </blockquote>
                                                      </blockquote>
                                                      <div class="">
                                                        <div class=""> <br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <br class="">
                                                          <div class="">On

                                                          18/12/2015
                                                          6:28 am, Jody
                                                          Garnett wrote:<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite"
                                                          class="">Thanks

                                                          for the
                                                          productive
                                                          discussion -
                                                          some of those
                                                          privacy
                                                          policies seem
                                                          to be website
                                                          specific (
                                                          rather than
                                                          for an
                                                          organization
                                                          as a whole ).<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <br class="">
                                                          We just are
                                                          rebooting the
                                                          webcom so the
                                                          timing is good
                                                          for a privacy
                                                          discussion. It
                                                          may be easier
                                                          to start here
                                                          and then
                                                          branch out to
                                                          project /
                                                          committee
                                                          email lists
                                                          and a
                                                          foundation
                                                          wide policy. <br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <br class="">
                                                          We have a
                                                          different
                                                          understanding
                                                          of foss4g
                                                          Maxi.<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"
                                                          class="">On
                                                          Thu, Dec 17,
                                                          2015 at 4:08
                                                          AM
                                                          Massimiliano
                                                          Cannata <<a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                                          href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a></a>>



                                                          wrote:<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0px

                                                          0px 0px
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                                                          <div dir="ltr"
                                                          class="">Dear
                                                          Gert, deal
                                                          all,
                                                          <div class="">after

                                                          a few days of
                                                          discussion I
                                                          would like to
                                                          sum up some
                                                          considerations
                                                          to re-focus to
                                                          subject of my
                                                          first e-mail
                                                          and that in my
                                                          opinion should
                                                          led OSGeo
                                                          foundation to
                                                          at least one
                                                          or two
                                                          argument for
                                                          discussion.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">1-

                                                          Some FOSS4G
                                                          events made
                                                          use of
                                                          "aggressive"
                                                          marketing
                                                          strategies
                                                          using mailing
                                                          lists where
                                                          the users
                                                          didn't
                                                          explicitly
                                                          agree in being
                                                          notified.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">2-

                                                          There are laws
                                                          on privacy
                                                          protection
                                                          which are
                                                          different  for
                                                          different
                                                          countries/region
                                                          (this is
                                                          explained for
                                                          example at
                                                          this resource,
                                                          but I'm not a
                                                          loyer: <a
                                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp">http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp</a></a> )</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">3-

                                                          OSGeo act
                                                          globally and
                                                          should be
                                                          respectful as
                                                          much as
                                                          possible of
                                                          all the
                                                          existing rules</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">4-

                                                          FOSS4G is the
                                                          OSGeo's label
                                                          of their Free
                                                          and Open
                                                          Source
                                                          Software For
                                                          Geospatial
                                                          conferences</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">Said

                                                          that each
                                                          person or
                                                          organization
                                                          is responsible
                                                          for its acts
                                                          (and is free
                                                          to behave as
                                                          he/she/it
                                                          prefer), I
                                                          would like
                                                          that OSGeo -
                                                          and FOSS4G
                                                          that is with
                                                          no doubt
                                                          recognized as
                                                          an OSGeo event
                                                          - act in
                                                          respect of a
                                                          well defined
                                                          privacy
                                                          protection
                                                          policy with
                                                          is </div>
                                                          <div class="">as

                                                          much
                                                          protective of
                                                          privacy as
                                                          possible.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">Example

                                                          of Privacy
                                                          Policy can be
                                                          found for
                                                          example in:</div>
                                                          <div class="">-
                                                          Apache
                                                          foundation (<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                                          href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html">http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html</a></a>) </div>
                                                          <div class="">-
                                                          Eclipse
                                                          foundation (<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                                          href="https://eclipse.org/legal/privacy.php"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eclipse.org/legal/privacy.php">https://eclipse.org/legal/privacy.php</a></a>) </div>
                                                          <div class="">-
                                                          Debian (<a
                                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.debianit.com/privacy-policy/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.debianit.com/privacy-policy/">http://www.debianit.com/privacy-policy/</a></a>)<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">- Software

                                                          Freedom
                                                          Conservancy (<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                                          href="https://sfconservancy.org/privacy-policy/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sfconservancy.org/privacy-policy/">https://sfconservancy.org/privacy-policy/</a></a>)</div>
                                                          <div class="">- OpenStack

                                                          (<a
                                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.openstack.org/privacy/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstack.org/privacy/">https://www.openstack.org/privacy/</a></a>)</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">From

                                                          a short
                                                          reading all of
                                                          them seems
                                                          state that
                                                          they do not
                                                          pass
                                                          information to
                                                          third parties
                                                          and do not use
                                                          these
                                                          information
                                                          for sending
                                                          newsletter
                                                          unless
                                                          explicitly
                                                          agreed.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">So,

                                                          if I raised
                                                          you attention
                                                          to this hot
                                                          topic and in
                                                          the future
                                                          people will be
                                                          more sensitive
                                                          and respectful
                                                          of privacy
                                                          when they act
                                                          in the name of
                                                          FOSS4G or
                                                          OSGeo I'm
                                                          1000% happy
                                                          and accept any
                                                          blame on me.</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">Best

                                                          regard,</div>
                                                          <div class="">Maxi</div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">2015-12-15

                                                          23:38
                                                          GMT+01:00
                                                          Gert-Jan van
                                                          der Weijden -
                                                          Stichting <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://osgeo.nl" class="">OSGeo.nl</a> <span
                                                          dir="ltr"
                                                          class=""><<a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gert-jan@osgeo.nl"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gert-jan@osgeo.nl">gert-jan@osgeo.nl</a></a>></span>:<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0px

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                                                          <div
                                                          link="blue"
                                                          vlink="purple"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="NL">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB">First:

                                                          I took the
                                                          opportunity to
                                                          change the
                                                          subject of
                                                          this thread to
                                                          a less
                                                          shouting
                                                          version (CAPS
                                                          LOCK and spam
                                                          live
                                                          side-by-side
                                                          on my
                                                          email-irritation-scale)</span></p>
                                                          <div class=""><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB"> </span><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB"> </span><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB">Second:

                                                          Funny to see
                                                          how the use of
                                                          two different
                                                          channels
                                                          (mailing list
                                                          vs. MailChimp)
                                                          kind of
                                                          reflect the
                                                          different
                                                          approaches to
                                                          reach the
                                                          -more of less-
                                                          same goal.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB">Any

                                                          expanding
                                                          organisation /
                                                          movement /
                                                          community
                                                          comes to a
                                                          point where
                                                          the classical
                                                          channels (like
                                                          a mailing
                                                          list) reach
                                                          their limits,
                                                          </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB">and

                                                          "new"
                                                          marketing
                                                          (yuch!
                                                          marketing==ugly
                                                          & bad!)
                                                          channels &
                                                          methods may
                                                          help to
                                                          stretch beyond
                                                          borders. Which
                                                          comes at a
                                                          cost (as Maxi
                                                          tries to tell,
                                                          I guess).</span></p>
                                                          <div class=""><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB"> </span><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB">Food

                                                          for thought
                                                          for the Board
                                                          face2face
                                                          meeting in
                                                          January (and
                                                          for the entire
                                                          community) to
                                                          determine </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB">-
                                                          what our goals
                                                          are</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB">-
                                                          what our
                                                          values are</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB">-
                                                          and how these
                                                          two compare to
                                                          each other.</span></p>
                                                          <div class=""><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB"> </span><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB"> </span><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB">Kind

                                                          regards, </span></p>
                                                          <div class=""><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB"> </span><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB">Gert-Jan</span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                                                          class=""
                                                          lang="EN-GB"> </span><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
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                                                          <div class=""><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
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                                                          lang="EN-GB"> </span><br
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                                                          <div class=""><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
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class="webkit-block-placeholder">
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                                                          class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><b
                                                          class=""><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif" class="">Van:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif" class=""> Discuss
                                                          [mailto:<a
                                                          class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a></a>]
                                                          <b class="">Namens

                                                          </b>Rob
                                                          Emanuele<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <b class="">Verzonden:</b>
                                                          dinsdag 15
                                                          december 2015
                                                          21:51<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <b class="">Aan:</b>
                                                          David Bianco<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <b class="">CC:</b>
                                                          OSGeo
                                                          Discussions<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <b class="">Onderwerp:</b>
                                                          Re:
                                                          [OSGeo-Discuss]
                                                          FOSS4GNA -
                                                          SOMEONE IS
                                                          WATCHING YOU
                                                          :-o</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Hey

                                                          David,</p>
                                                          <div class="">
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class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">The

                                                          emails on the
                                                          mailing list
                                                          were
                                                          cultivated by
                                                          past FOSS4G NA
                                                          attendees,
                                                          people opting
                                                          in in other
                                                          ways, and from
                                                          lists that
                                                          were given by
                                                          members of
                                                          this and last
                                                          year's
                                                          committee. If
                                                          we're spamming
                                                          people who
                                                          didn't opt in,
                                                          it is not
                                                          intentional
                                                          and apologies
                                                          for the spam
                                                          (the world
                                                          certainly
                                                          doesn't need
                                                          more spam).
                                                          We'll take a
                                                          look at the
                                                          list moving
                                                          forward to try
                                                          to prevent
                                                          from sending
                                                          emails to
                                                          anyone who
                                                          didn't opt in.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Rob</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">On

                                                          Tue, Dec 15,
                                                          2015 at 2:48
                                                          PM, David
                                                          Bianco <<a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:me@davidbianco.net"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:me@davidbianco.net">me@davidbianco.net</a></a>>



                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          believe
                                                          MailChimp has
                                                          policies
                                                          against adding
                                                          emails to your
                                                          list without a
                                                          user's
                                                          authorization.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                                          href="http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/">http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/</a></a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">On

                                                          Tue, Dec 15,
                                                          2015, at
                                                          10:16, Rob
                                                          Emanuele
                                                          wrote:</p>
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                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Thanks

                                                          for pointing
                                                          out that it
                                                          wasn't yet
                                                          posted to
                                                          OSGeo-Discuss,
                                                          I just posted
                                                          it.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">There's

                                                          a one-click
                                                          unsubscribe
                                                          button from
                                                          that mailing
                                                          list, sorry
                                                          for the spam!</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">On

                                                          Tue, Dec 15,
                                                          2015 at 12:31
                                                          PM,
                                                          Massimiliano
                                                          Cannata <<a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                                          href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a></a>>



                                                          wrote:</p>
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                                                          class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Just

                                                          a funny
                                                          note...</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Nice

                                                          to see that
                                                          LocationTech
                                                          has a FOSS4G
                                                          email (!!!!
                                                          WOW!!!!!) </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">and..... </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">that


                                                          all the link
                                                          on the
                                                          received
                                                          e-mail are
                                                          connected with
                                                          my user_id (I
                                                          have one?????
                                                          Yes) </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">and.... </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">that


                                                          they are
                                                          tracked (!!!
                                                          without inform
                                                          me !!!) </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">and... </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">that


                                                          I have been
                                                          added to a
                                                          list that i'm
                                                          not
                                                          subscribed....
                                                          (<a
                                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://mailchimp.com/about/mcsv/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailchimp.com/about/mcsv/">http://mailchimp.com/about/mcsv/</a></a>)</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">But...</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Where


                                                          did they get
                                                          my e-mail
                                                          from?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">why


                                                          thy didn't
                                                          simply post
                                                          the news to
                                                          the
                                                          discussion-osgeo
                                                          list?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">what


                                                          do they want
                                                          to track?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><b
                                                          class="">If
                                                          you want to
                                                          see the
                                                          FOSS4G-NA
                                                          without been
                                                          traced here is
                                                          the link <a
                                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://2016.foss4g-na.org/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://2016.foss4g-na.org/">https://2016.foss4g-na.org/</a></a></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">#SPAM


                                                          #NOT-SO-FAIR
                                                          #LIKE-MICROSOFT-THAT-SPY-ME
                                                          #SCARY</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Maxi</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class=""> <br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">--


                                                          </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <div class="">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><b
                                                          class=""><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"
                                                          class="">Massimiliano



                                                          Cannata</span></b></p>
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                                                          style="margin:
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                                                          repeat
                                                          repeat;"
                                                          class=""><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray" class="">Professore


                                                          SUPSI in
                                                          ingegneria
                                                          Geomatica</span><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"
                                                          class=""></span></div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:
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                                                          repeat;"
                                                          class=""><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray" class="">Responsabile



                                                          settore
                                                          Geomatica</span><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"
                                                          class=""></span></div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin:0cm
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                                                          none repeat
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                                                          class=""><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"
                                                          class=""> </span></p>
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                                                          repeat;"
                                                          class=""><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray" class="">Istituto


                                                          scienze della
                                                          Terra</span><span
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style="font-size:9pt;color:gray" class="">Dipartimento ambiente
                                                          costruzione e
                                                          design</span></div>
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                                                          0.0001pt;"
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style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray" class="">Scuola


                                                          universitaria
                                                          professionale
                                                          della Svizzera
                                                          italiana</span><span
                                                          style="font-family:

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif;"
                                                          class=""></span></div>
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style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray" class="">Campus


                                                          Trevano, CH -
                                                          6952 Canobbio</span><span
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                                                          class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________</p>
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                                                          class="">_______________________________________________</u></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Discuss

                                                          mailing list</p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"><a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a></a></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"><a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
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_______________________________________________<br class="">
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href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a></a><br
                                                          class="">
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href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></a></p>
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class="webkit-block-placeholder">
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                                                          class=""><b
                                                          style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"
                                                          class="">Massimiliano



                                                          Cannata</b><br
                                                          class="">
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                                                          rgb(255, 255,
                                                          255);"
                                                          class=""><span
style="color:gray;font-size:9pt" class="">Professore SUPSI in ingegneria
                                                          Geomatica</span></div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:
                                                          0px; color:
                                                          rgb(34, 34,
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                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          font-size:
                                                          13px;
                                                          background-color:
                                                          rgb(255, 255,
                                                          255);"
                                                          class=""><span
style="color:gray;font-size:9pt" class="">Responsabile settore Geomatica</span></div>
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                                                          0px; color:
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                                                          font-family:
                                                          arial,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          font-size:
                                                          13px;
                                                          background-color:
                                                          rgb(255, 255,
                                                          255);"
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                                                          font-family:
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                                                          font-size:
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                                                          background-color:
                                                          rgb(255, 255,
                                                          255);"
                                                          class=""><span
style="color:gray;font-size:9pt" class="">Istituto scienze della Terra</span></div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:
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style="font-size:9pt;color:gray" class="" lang="IT">Dipartimento
                                                          ambiente
                                                          costruzione e
                                                          design</span></div>
                                                          <div
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style="font-size:12px" class="" lang="IT"><font class="" face="arial,
                                                          sans-serif"
                                                          color="#808080">Scuola


                                                          universitaria
                                                          professionale
                                                          della Svizzera
                                                          italiana</font></span></div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="font-family:
                                                          arial;
                                                          font-size:
                                                          small; margin:
                                                          0px;" class=""><span
style="color:gray;font-size:9pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="">Campus


                                                          Trevano, </span><span
style="color:gray;font-size:9pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="">CH



                                                          - 6952
                                                          Canobbio</span></div>
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                                                          class=""><span
style="font-size:9pt;color:gray" class="" lang="IT">Tel. <a
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href="tel:%2B41%20%280%2958%20666%2062%2014" value="+41586666214"
                                                          target="_blank"
                                                          class="">+41
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                                                          font-family:
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                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          font-size:
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                                                          rgb(255, 255,
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style="font-size:9pt;color:gray" class="" lang="EN-US">Fax <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B41%20%280%2958%20666%2062%2009" value="+41586666209"
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style="font-size:9pt" class="" lang="EN-US"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch"
target="_blank" class="">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a></span></div>
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href="http://www.supsi.ch/ist"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.supsi.ch/ist">www.supsi.ch/ist</a></a></span></span></u></div>
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href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a></a><br
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href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></a></blockquote>
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                                                          <div class="">Jody

                                                          Garnett</div>
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                                                          <pre class="">_______________________________________________
Discuss mailing list
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></pre>
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                                                          class=""
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                                                          <pre cols="72" class="">-- 
Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000" value="+61290095000" target="_blank" class="">+61 2 9009 5000</a>,  W <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lisasoft.com/" target="_blank" class="">www.lisasoft.com</a>,  F <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099" value="+61290095099" target="_blank" class="">+61 2 9009 5099</a></pre>
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href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a></a><br
                                                      class="">
                                                    <a
                                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></a><br
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                            </div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class=""><b
                        style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"
                        class="">Massimiliano Cannata</b><br class="">
                      <div style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
                        font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                        background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span
                          style="color:gray;font-size:9pt" class="">Professore

                          SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica</span></div>
                      <div style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
                        font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                        background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span
                          style="color:gray;font-size:9pt" class="">Responsabile

                          settore Geomatica</span></div>
                      <div style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
                        font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                        background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span
                          style="color:gray;font-size:9pt" class=""><br
                            class="">
                        </span></div>
                      <div style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
                        font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
                        background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span
                          style="color:gray;font-size:9pt" class="">Istituto

                          scienze della Terra</span></div>
                      <div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span
                          style="font-size:9pt;color:gray" class=""
                          lang="IT">Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e
                          design</span></div>
                      <div style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;
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