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    +1 to comments so far.<br>
    Two major FOSS4G events in the same country would weaken both
    events. Companies sending delegates or presenters would almost
    certainly need to select one over the other, and sponsors will
    therefore target one over the other, but not both.<br>
    <br>
    What might work is clearly providing one main, and one minor city
    event.<br>
    Eg: Hold a 1 day FOSS4G event in Ottawa, which targets just people
    within Ottawa area.<br>
    <br>
    Andrea, I'm not on foss4g-na list, nor intending to join. Feel free
    to forward my comments.<br>
    <br>
    Warm regards, Cameron<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/02/2016 2:40 pm, Andrea Ross
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:214D5415-FF78-4948-96E7-3C611B06DE0E@eclipse.org"
      type="cite">Dear All,<br>
      <br>
      If you would, please participate in the discussion on the NA list
      too, as Steven did.<br>
      <br>
      Kind regards,<br>
      <br>
      Andrea<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On February 18, 2016 10:07:04 PM EST,
        "신상희" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shshin@gaia3d.com"><shshin@gaia3d.com></a> wrote:
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            <p class=""><span class="">Hi all, </span></p>
            <p class="">I agree with Steven’s view also. <br>
              <span class=""></span></p>
            <p class="">I couldn’t recall the case that we run the
              regional and global event at the same year in the same
              region. As Venka mentioned, last year’s FOSS4G Asia was
              merged to FOSS4G Seoul and we’ll not have FOSS4G Europe
              this year to promote FOSS4G Bonn more successfully. <br>
              <span class=""></span></p>
            <p class="">Usually more than two-third FOSS4G attendees are
              from the same region. If we have FOSS4G NA in Spring and
              International FOSS4G in Summer, there could be possible
              cannibalisation. I'm concerned about that. <br>
              <span class=""></span></p>
            <p class="">Kind regards, <br>
              <span class=""></span></p>
            <p class="">신상희<br>
              <span class=""></span></p>
            <p class=""><span class="">---</span></p>
            <p class=""><span class="">Shin, Sanghee</span></p>
            <p class=""><span class="">Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial
                Company</span></p>
            <p class=""><span class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.gaia3d.com/">http://www.gaia3d.com</a></span><span
                class=""> </span></p>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">2016-02-19 10:46 GMT+09:00 Venka <span
                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:venka.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">venka.osgeo@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear
                All,<br>
                <br>
                I agree with the views expressed by Steven.<br>
                More comments below.<br>
                <br>
                On 2/19/2016 8:09 AM, Steven Feldman wrote:<br>
                ...<span class=""><br>
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                    <br>
                    A NA regional event and a global event in the same
                    year could be<br>
                    different. It may be possible to differentiate the
                    appeal of the 2<br>
                    events to different audiences but I would need
                    convincing on this. I<br>
                    know that we have a global event in Europe this year
                    and the<br>
                    community has chosen not to run a regional event in
                    the same year<br>
                    (there will be a couple of much smaller country
                    level events).<br>
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                  <br>
                </span>
                In 2015, the Asian community also chose not to run the
                FOSS4G-Asia regional event.<br>
                ...<span class=""><br>
                  <br>
                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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                    Perhaps the Boston team should be asked for their
                    opinions and at the<br>
                    very least they should rework their budget to take
                    account of the<br>
                    potential reduction in sponsorship and delegates
                    that could result?<br>
                  </blockquote>
                  <br>
                </span>
                +1 to consulting the Boston team and if possible, also
                asking FOSS4G and FOSS4G-NA attendees/sponsors (past and
                2016) to find out if many would consider
                attending/sponsoring both events if they are organized
                in the same year.<br>
                <br>
                Best<br>
                <br>
                Venka<br>
                <br>
                <br>
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                      class="">
                      On 18 Feb 2016, at 19:37, David William Bitner<br>
                      <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:bitner@dbspatial.com"
                        target="_blank">bitner@dbspatial.com</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
                      <br>
                      If any folks from the OSGeo Conference Committee
                      have thoughts or<br>
                      concerns on this, I'd love to hear them on FOSS4G
                      NA selection<br>
                      mailing list<br>
                    </span>
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                      <br>
                      ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From:
                      Andrea Ross<br>
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                    Date: Thu, Feb 18,<span class=""><br>
                      2016 at 1:32 PM Subject: Time to decide on FOSS4G
                      NA 2017 To:<br>
                      "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        target="_blank">foss4gna_selection@googlegroups.com</a><br>
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                      href="mailto:foss4gna_selection@googlegroups.com"
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                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Dear Everyone,<br>
                      <br>
                      As many of you know, FOSS4G NA is an important
                      annual conference<br>
                      for a number of communities, projects, and
                      initiatives. OSGeo &<br>
                      LocationTech are two of the well known Foundations
                      participating,<br>
                      but FOSS4G NA spans well beyond both.<br>
                      <br>
                      In 2015, a number of people participated in
                      crafting governance for<br>
                      FOSS4G NA<br>
                    </span>
                    <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WlgmJgtl0LaV0EO0NtDDSnloTgsIvxu9KwddPDwX1WU/edit"
                      rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WlgmJgtl0LaV0EO0NtDDSnloTgsIvxu9KwddPDwX1WU/edit</a>>.<span
                      class=""><br>
                      Following that governance, the core committee (see
                      below), is<br>
                      working on making a decision regarding FOSS4G NA
                      2017.<br>
                      <br>
                      The key decision for the short term is whether
                      FOSS4G NA 2017<br>
                      should be held in 2017. FOSS4G Global will be held
                      in Boston in<br>
                      late August (IIRC), so the decision is not as
                      simple as it would<br>
                      have otherwise been.<br>
                      <br>
                      Discussion is taking place on the FOSS4G NA
                      selection mailing list<br>
                    </span>
                    <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/foss4gna_selection</a>>.
                    All<span class=""><br>
                      are invited to participate.<br>
                      <br>
                      For context:<br>
                      <br>
                      FOSS4G NA has grown into a good sized conference
                      in its own right,<br>
                      and keeps growing. The next one is taking place
                      May 2-5, 2016 in<br>
                    </span>
                    Raleigh North Carolina <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://2016.foss4g-na.org/"
                      rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://2016.foss4g-na.org/</a>>.
                    FOSS4G NA has<span class=""><br>
                      done some things differently than global such as
                      free passes for<br>
                      speakers, registration discounts for committers,
                      and and more. In<br>
                      other regions, the regional conferences have run
                      in the same year<br>
                      as FOSS4G Global with no serious issues noted. It
                      is likely FOSS4G<br>
                      NA could run anywhere other than the North-eastern
                      United states,<br>
                      and both it and FOSS4G Global in Boston would
                      succeed. A few groups<br>
                      have expressed some interest in FOSS4G NA 2017
                      being hosted in<br>
                      their region including San Francisco and Ottawa.
                      It is now time to<br>
                      decide if we proceed with NA 2017, or not.<br>
                      <br>
                      As per the FOSS4G NA governance<br>
                    </span>
                    <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WlgmJgtl0LaV0EO0NtDDSnloTgsIvxu9KwddPDwX1WU/edit#"
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                      class=""><br>
                      the committee consists of: 3 past chairs of FOSS4G
                      NA (Currently:<br>
                      Eddie Pickle, David Bitner, Rob Emanuele) 1
                      representative for<br>
                      OSGeo (Currently: Mark Lucas) 1 representative for
                      LocationTech<br>
                      (Currently: Jim Hughes) Sarah Cordivano (chair
                      2016), will soon<br>
                      join the FOSS4G NA core committee as Eddie Pickle
                      (chair 2012)<br>
                      retires from it.<br>
                      <br>
                      For those interested, the kinds of things the
                      committee is looking<br>
                      for in a place to host FOSS4G NA are: Good flight
                      links<br>
                      nationally. Appropriate sized venue (500-700
                      people). A choice of<br>
                      accommodations at various price points. Economical
                      price point for<br>
                      the conference venue. Active community in the
                      region. Downtown<br>
                      location near many points of interest is a big
                      plus Kind regards,<br>
                      <br>
                      Andrea<br>
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