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    <p>Hi Maria, Massimiliano,</p>
    <p>I agree with Stephen's pragmatism. What is proposed is better
      than before.</p>
    <p>It is probably not perfect, but we are unlikely to meet
      everyone's ideal expectations, and lets put a "rough consensus"
      solution in place. We can potentially revisit and tweak next year
      if volunteers are willing to step up and change things.</p>
    <p>Based on proposed rules, it is time for me to retire from the
      conference committee. (I was chair in foss4g 2009). I plan to
      continue offering my services to help building the FOSS4G
      Handbook. I'm happy to do so whether I'm re-elected to the
      committee or not. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/09/2016 2:13 AM, Steven Feldman
      wrote:<br>
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      <div class="">I think the regional distribution will come about
        naturally with the rotation of FOSS4G chairs, perhaps we could
        try it out for a year and see how it works out once we have been
        through 2 elections (one if this motion is approved and another
        in a year’s time).</div>
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      <div class="">I agree with you that we should aspire to have more
        women on the committee and also on the wider conference mail
        list. We don’t currently have reserved places for women on the
        Board, Charter membership or PSCs to my knowledge. Shouldn’t
        this topic be a subject for wider discussion across the
        community. In the meantime those voting in the 2016 election
        could factor gender into their choices.</div>
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      <div class="">I am not sure what you mean by "<span
          style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">charter
          members should be allowed to have a say on how our conference
          will be conducted.”? The discussions on the Conference Mail
          List are open to anyone to participate and express their
          views. The committee members should consider all opinions
          expressed on the list before voting.</span></div>
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      <div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"
          class="">Re a quorum for a vote. It is common for a committee
          to allow a vote to stand without all members voting, hence the
          suggestion of a quorum. I should point out that it is not
          uncommon for many committee members not to respond to a
          request for comment or a vote (perhaps silence signifies
          agreement). </span></div>
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          class="">Once the vote on the motion has completed (and
          assuming it is accepted) you could propose an amendment to
          the quorum (perhaps 4 or 5) and perhaps a slightly longer
          notice period (say 3 or 4 working days)</span></div>
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          class="">Best regards<br class="">
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            Steven<br class="">
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            <div class="">On 15 Sep 2016, at 15:40, Maria Antonia
              Brovelli <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              wrote:</div>
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                  class="">Steven, first of all I want to thank you for
                  your great work!  </div>
                <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
                  class="">Was really fantastic how you were able to
                  synthesize the previous document. </div>
                <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
                  class="">I have some relevant suggestions about some
                  points of the discussion.</div>
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                  class="">The first is about the composition of the CC.</div>
                <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
                  class="">It is ok of having 11 members. At that point
                  I  propose:</div>
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                  class=""><span class="">3 rest of the world, 3 NA, 3
                    Europe </span></div>
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                  </span></div>
                <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
                  class=""><span class="">and then 2 ladies, as we need
                    to have more ladies in the decision rooms.</span></div>
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                <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
                  class=""><span class="">The CC decisions need to be
                    visible to the community and <span class=""> charter
                      members should be allowed to have a say on how our
                      conference will be conducted.</span></span></div>
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                    </span></span></div>
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                  class=""><span class=""><span class="">Then my last
                      consideration is that we need at least 6 votes in
                      accordance. 3 are definitely not enough. It is
                       not the majority. </span></span></div>
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                      points  and we have to discuss them.</div>
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                    <div name="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-family:
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                                rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">----------------------------------------------------<br
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                              </span></b></font></span></font>Prof.
                      Maria Antonia Brovelli<br class="">
                      <div class=""><font class="" face="'Trebuchet MS',
                          sans-serif" size="3">Vice Rector for Como
                          Campus and GIS Professor<br class="">
                          Politecnico di Milano</font></div>
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                                class="">ISPRS WG IV/4"<span class="">Collaborative
                                  crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)</span>";</span><span
                                class=""><span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
                                class="">OSGeo;<span
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                                class="">ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS Advisory <font
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                                  sans-serif">Board</font>; NASA
                                WorldWind Europa Challenge;<span
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                                class="">SIFET </span></div>
                          </span></font></font>
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                          class="">Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITAL<font
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                      <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        class="">conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
                      per conto di Steven Feldman <<a
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                      <b class="">Inviato:</b><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>giovedì 15
                      settembre 2016 15.48<br class="">
                      <b class="">A:</b><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Massimiliano
                      Cannata<br class="">
                      <b class="">Cc:</b><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>OSGeo-Conf<br
                        class="">
                      <b class="">Oggetto:</b><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                      [OSGeo-Conf] MOTION : Conference Committee -
                      Updating Membership Policies and Process</font>
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                  <div class="">Maxi
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                    <div class="">Thanks for your comments. We are now
                      in the voting stage so I cannot change the motion.
                      However I will try to respond briefly to your
                      comments inline below<br class="">
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                          Steven<br class="">
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                          <div class="">On 15 Sep 2016, at 11:25,
                            Massimiliano Cannata <<a
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                            wrote:</div>
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Steven,
                              <div class="">I know i'm late but I hope
                                my comments could be still considered to
                                improve the "Membership Policies and
                                Process" of the conference committee.<br
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                                </div>
                                <div class="">In general I don't like
                                  the idea that only who has chaired a
                                  conference is entitled to take
                                  decision on the conference, is like
                                  saying that if you are not a developer
                                  you cannot be part of a project PSC
                                  even if you are a "rock expert in user
                                  interaction design" for example or
                                  "super power user"... often the
                                  minister of education is not a
                                  professor ;-)</div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        ** The role of the conference committee requires
                        the expertise of past chairs. Only 5 of 11
                        places are allocated to past chairs, the other
                        places are open to regional chairs or others
                        with equivalent relevant experience<br class="">
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                                <div class="">here below some detailed
                                  comments inline..</div>
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                                          Goals</div>
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                                        <div class="">The conference
                                          committee have the
                                          responsibility to run the
                                          selection process and voting
                                          for the global FOSS4G, to vote
                                          on other proposals submitted
                                          to the committee and to advise
                                          the board on other matters
                                          relating to FOSS4G events.</div>
                                        <div class=""><br class="">
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">Role of the
                                          Committee and the broader
                                          community on the
                                          Conference_Dev list</div>
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                                              class="">1) Everyday
                                              topics will be decided
                                              upon by an open vote of
                                              all list participants in a
                                              clearly designated
                                              separate mail thread
                                              (+1/-1) over a minimum of
                                              two business days with a
                                              minimum participation of 3
                                              votes. Ideally we aim for
                                              consensus falling back on
                                              simple majority vote where
                                              necessary. The result will
                                              be clearly declared
                                              afterwards (or whatever is
                                              decided).</span></div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div class=""><br class="">
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">3 votes out of 11
                                      members and 2 days seems to me too
                                      restricted: in principle after a
                                      motion having 3 positive votes
                                      after two bussiness day can be
                                      enough to declare passed the
                                      motion</div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        ** we have to set a quorum and a time limit on
                        votes - sometimes decisions are needed
                        relatively quickly. Often only a subset of
                        conference committee members or list
                        participants actually respond. If the current
                        motion is passed you could suggest an amendment
                        to increase the quorum and time limit<br
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                                            </span></div>
                                          <div class="" style="margin:
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                                              class="">2) Election of
                                              conference committee is by
                                              secret vote and restricted
                                              to the remaining
                                              conference committee
                                              members and board members
                                              who are not members of the
                                              conference committee.</span></div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
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                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">I would like to see
                                      the votes open to all participants
                                      (all the charter member that are
                                      part of the conference mailing
                                      list or are registered as
                                      interested), not only the
                                      remaining committee (otherwise you
                                      basically decide with who you want
                                      to work).</div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        ** The electorate for new committee members is
                        the combination of the remaining committee
                        members AND the Board.<br class="">
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                                            </span></div>
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                                              class="">3) FOSS4G
                                              Selection - All Letters of
                                              Intent and subsequent
                                              proposals will be posted
                                              to the list for open
                                              comment by all
                                              participants. The
                                              selection of the winning
                                              proposal is by secret vote
                                              of conference committee
                                              members only. Any
                                              committee member who has a
                                              potential conflict of
                                              interest is expected to
                                              withdraw from vote. In the
                                              event of a disagreement
                                              the committee chair will
                                              decide.</span></div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div class=""><br class="">
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">What do mean by "In
                                      the event of a disagreement the
                                      committee chair will decide"? In
                                      case of tie the chair decide the
                                      winning (that anyway is decided by
                                      the board as the conference
                                      committee provides its indication
                                      and the board eventually ratify
                                      it).</div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        *** you have misunderstood - this is nothing to
                        do with a tied vote. the chair decides whether
                        there is a conflict of interest if agreement
                        can’t be reached. See the revised version of the
                        motion that was posted today following various
                        people’s comments<br class="">
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                                            </span></div>
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                                              class="">Votes in 2 and 3
                                              are to an online voting
                                              service or by email to an
                                              independent teller
                                              appointed by CC Chair</span></div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
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                                    </div>
                                    <div class=""><br class="">
                                    </div>
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                                          </span></div>
                                        <div class="" style="margin:
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                                          Committee membership policy
                                          and process</div>
                                        <div class="" style="margin:
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                                            class="">============</div>
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                                          1) The conference committee
                                          aims to retain up to 11 active
                                          members, preferably an odd
                                          number<br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">2) The committee
                                          aims for half of these members
                                          to be chairs (or vice chairs)
                                          of the most recent FOSS4G
                                          global events. The chair of
                                          the most recent FOSS4G event
                                          will automatically be invited
                                          to become a member<br class="">
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div class=""><br class="">
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">So the "aim" is that
                                      the last 5 chairs of global FOSS4G
                                      should be members of the
                                      committee, but if you change 3
                                      member a year, in about 3 years
                                      you have changed all the members:
                                      so this is not possible,
                                      mathematically speaking, unless
                                      you recruit both chair and
                                      vice-chair in the committee. so
                                      you'll have 6 new members in 3
                                      years.</div>
                                    <div class="">At this point no more
                                      seats are left for regional
                                      conference chairs….</div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        ** I think this will work - The longest standing
                        chair stands down, the latest is co-opted onto
                        committee. 2 other longest standing members from
                        the remaining 6 non-chair positions retire and 2
                        new people are elected<br class="">
                        <blockquote type="cite" class="">
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                                        <div class=""><br class="">
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">3) The remaining
                                          membership is open, ideally
                                          attracting people from earlier
                                          past chairs or active LOC
                                          members from past Global,
                                          Regional FOSS4G or related
                                          conferences</div>
                                        <br class="">
                                        <div class="">4) Each year
                                          (after FOSS4G) the 3 committee
                                          members should stand down:<br
                                            class="">
                                          a) The longest standing past
                                          FOSS4G chair<br class="">
                                          b) The longest standing 2
                                          committee members remaining<br
                                            class="">
                                          <div class=""><br class="">
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div class="">Should or Shall, is it
                                      a rule or a guideline. What is the
                                      longest standing past FOSS4G chair
                                      does not stand down? Is he/she
                                      forced to resign or banned?</div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        ** My view would be that in our community a
                        ‘should’ is sufficient, if you think a more
                        formal approach is required you can propose an
                        amendment to change to ‘shall’ after the vote<br
                          class="">
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                                    <div class=""> </div>
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                                        <div class="">
                                          <div class="">5) Each year,
                                            prior to putting out the
                                            Global FOSS4G RfP, the old
                                            committee should vote for
                                            their replacement committee,
                                            using the above criteria as
                                            voting guidelines.  OSGeo
                                            Board members who are not on
                                            the conference committee
                                            will also be invited to
                                            vote.</div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div class=""><br class="">
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">Again, i don't like
                                      this self-election of a governing
                                      body ;-) </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        *** see above<br class="">
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                                        <div class="">
                                          <div class="">
                                            <div class="">6) Past
                                              committee members
                                              including those who have
                                              stood down due to length
                                              of service may stand for
                                              re-election<br class="">
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div class=""><br class="">
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">Yes, but basically no
                                      seats will be available according
                                      to the rule of having half of the
                                      committee from latest events:
                                      oldest out, recent in so oldest no
                                      way to get in again ;-) unless
                                      others resign (apart from the
                                      three)</div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        *** see above<br class="">
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                                        <div class="">
                                          <div class="">
                                            <div class="">7) Votes will
                                              be secret either using an
                                              online voting system or by
                                              email to a designated
                                              teller who is not a voter.
                                              The mechanism will be
                                              selected by the committee
                                              chair.<br class="">
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div class=""><br class="">
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">Why the mechanism is
                                      not voted by all the committee
                                      members?</div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        *** we will probably continue to use an
                        independent teller as we have in the past. If
                        the board adopts loomio or some other system for
                        votes we may decide to change to that. We need
                        to get things done rather than spending a lot of
                        time considering every list member’s idea of
                        what voting software we should use.<br class="">
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                                              I would ask committee
                                              members (and list
                                              participants) to comment
                                              on this proposal by 18.00
                                              GMT Wednesday 14th
                                              September. I will then
                                              call for a vote amongst
                                              committee members only,
                                              the vote will close at
                                              18.00 GMT on Sunday 18th
                                              September. <br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              Once the membership policy
                                              has been agreed we will
                                              then need to apply the
                                              policy to the existing
                                              membership. I suggest that
                                              we ask all current members
                                              to confirm whether they
                                              wish to remain committee
                                              members and then hold an
                                              election (if needed). To
                                              this end it would be
                                              helpful if each committee
                                              member could update their
                                              record on the wiki page to
                                              show when they joined the
                                              conference committee (see
                                              my example). <br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              The intention is that a
                                              2016-7 committee of 11
                                              will have been selected
                                              before we vote on the
                                              LoI’s for 2018, which is
                                              likely to be before the
                                              end of October.<br
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                                        </div>
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                                        255);"><span class=""
                                          style="color: gray; font-size:
                                          9pt;">Professore SUPSI in
                                          ingegneria Geomatica</span></div>
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                                        255);"><span class=""
                                          style="color: gray; font-size:
                                          9pt;">Responsabile settore
                                          Geomatica</span></div>
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                                        background-color: rgb(255, 255,
                                        255);"><span class=""
                                          style="color: gray; font-size:
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                                          Terra</span></div>
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                                          class="" style="font-size:
                                          9pt; color: gray;" lang="IT">Dipartimento
                                          ambiente costruzione e design</span></div>
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                                        arial; font-size: small; margin:
                                        0px;"><span class=""
                                          style="font-size: 12px;"
                                          lang="IT"><font class=""
                                            face="arial, sans-serif"
                                            color="#808080">Scuola
                                            universitaria professionale
                                            della Svizzera italiana</font></span></div>
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                                        0px;"><span class=""
                                          style="color: gray; font-size:
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                                          sans-serif;">Campus Trevano, </span><span
                                          class="" style="color: gray;
                                          font-size: 9pt; font-family:
                                          arial, sans-serif;">CH - 6952
                                          Canobbio</span></div>
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                                        255);"><span class=""
                                          style="font-size: 9pt; color:
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                                        background-color: rgb(255, 255,
                                        255);"><span class=""
                                          style="font-size: 9pt; color:
                                          gray;" lang="EN-US">Fax +41
                                          (0)58 666 62 09</span></div>
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                                            href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch"
                                            target="_blank" class="">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a></span></div>
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                                        color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
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                                            lang="EN-US"><span class=""
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                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="http://www.supsi.ch/ist"
                                                target="_blank" class="">www.supsi.ch/ist</a></span></span></u></div>
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