<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><div style="direction: inherit;">Venka </div><div style="direction: inherit;"><br></div><div style="direction: inherit;">We have had a period for comments after which the motion was amended. We are now in the midst of the voting with 11 or 12 people having voted. I suggest we proceed and consider any amendments subsequently</div><div style="direction: inherit;"><br></div><div style="direction: inherit;">I am happy to amend the quorum in line with the board approach once the vote is finalised. With 11+ people already voted on this motion, we have surely exceeded any possible quorum?</div><br>Regards<div>Steven</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">+44 (0) 7958 924101</span></div><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Sent from my iPhone</span></div></div></div><div><br>On 16 Sep 2016, at 09:51, Venka <<a href="mailto:venka.osgeo@gmail.com">venka.osgeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Many thanks to Steve for his work on the Motion for</span><br><span>Updating Membership Policies and Process.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I have seen that some members who have not yet voted on the</span><br><span>motion have expressed their opinion.</span><br><span></span><br><span>1) I would prefer that we spend a bit more time on framing</span><br><span>the Membership Policies and Process and avoid introducing</span><br><span>many amendments after the present motion is adopted.</span><br><span></span><br><span>2) I agree with David that there is more room in the committee</span><br><span>that the 11 suggested in the present motion.</span><br><span></span><br><span>3) Having people who are and wish to be active in a committee</span><br><span>step down just because they seem to have been around too long,</span><br><span>is not the best way of manage the membership of committees, especially</span><br><span>so in a volunteer organization, I feel.</span><br><span></span><br><span>4) I also think that the issue of quorum and majority should be decided</span><br><span>before the motion is voted. The quorum for a meeting should be more than 50% of the members. (OSGeo Board meeting also requires 5 members out of 9 at a meeting to satisfy the quorum).</span><br><span></span><br><span>5) The present quorum and majority suggested (3 votes out of 11 for</span><br><span>a motion to be pass/fail) needs to be modified.</span><br><span></span><br><span>best</span><br><span></span><br><span>Venka</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On 2016/09/16 6:34, David William Bitner wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks for all the thought that has gone into this. I have to say that I am</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a +0 on this proposal.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think that we could be better served by simply having terms to committee</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>membership after which a member could stand for reelection with a target</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>number of members. I would definitely like to have more room in the target</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>than simply 11. Having only 11 seats with a target of half being appointed</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ex officio by having been past chairs (also what do we do in the case of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>co-chairs...) will definitely limit our abilities to try to add more</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>diversity to the group.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am very for bringing in our past chairs, but I do not agree with bringing</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>on a past chair automatically. I would like to see an affirmative vote for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>any new members. This can also help in the case where someone on a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>conference leadership team who might not have been the figurehead chair may</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>have more motivation to actually roll up there sleeves and do the work of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the committee.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Maria, Massimiliano,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I agree with Stephen's pragmatism. What is proposed is better than before.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It is probably not perfect, but we are unlikely to meet everyone's ideal</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>expectations, and lets put a "rough consensus" solution in place. We can</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>potentially revisit and tweak next year if volunteers are willing to step</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>up and change things.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Based on proposed rules, it is time for me to retire from the conference</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>committee. (I was chair in foss4g 2009). I plan to continue offering my</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>services to help building the FOSS4G Handbook. I'm happy to do so whether</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm re-elected to the committee or not.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cheers, Cameron</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 16/09/2016 2:13 AM, Steven Feldman wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Maria</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think the regional distribution will come about naturally with the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>rotation of FOSS4G chairs, perhaps we could try it out for a year and see</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>how it works out once we have been through 2 elections (one if this motion</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>is approved and another in a year’s time).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I agree with you that we should aspire to have more women on the committee</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and also on the wider conference mail list. We don’t currently have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>reserved places for women on the Board, Charter membership or PSCs to my</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>knowledge. Shouldn’t this topic be a subject for wider discussion across</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the community. In the meantime those voting in the 2016 election could</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>factor gender into their choices.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am not sure what you mean by "charter members should be allowed to have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>a say on how our conference will be conducted.”? The discussions on the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Conference Mail List are open to anyone to participate and express their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>views. The committee members should consider all opinions expressed on the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>list before voting.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Re a quorum for a vote. It is common for a committee to allow a vote to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>stand without all members voting, hence the suggestion of a quorum. I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>should point out that it is not uncommon for many committee members not to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>respond to a request for comment or a vote (perhaps silence signifies</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>agreement).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Once the vote on the motion has completed (and assuming it is accepted)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>you could propose an amendment to the quorum (perhaps 4 or 5) and perhaps a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>slightly longer notice period (say 3 or 4 working days)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Best regards</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>______</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Steven</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 15 Sep 2016, at 15:40, Maria Antonia Brovelli <<a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Steven, first of all I want to thank you for your great work!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Was really fantastic how you were able to synthesize the previous</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>document.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have some relevant suggestions about some points of the discussion.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The first is about the composition of the CC.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It is ok of having 11 members. At that point I propose:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3 rest of the world, 3 NA, 3 Europe</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and then 2 ladies, as we need to have more ladies in the decision rooms.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The CC decisions need to be visible to the community and charter members</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>should be allowed to have a say on how our conference will be conducted.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Then my last consideration is that we need at least 6 votes in accordance.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3 are definitely not enough. It is not the majority.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In my opinion these are relevant points and we have to discuss them.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Best regards!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Maria</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*---------------------------------------------------- *Prof. Maria</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Antonia Brovelli</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Vice Rector for Como Campus and GIS Professor</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Politecnico di Milano</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ISPRS WG IV/4"Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)"; OSGeo; ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Sol Katz Award 2015*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALY)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 - fax. +39-031-3327321</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>e-mail1: <a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>e-mail2: <a href="mailto:prorettrice@como.polimi.it">prorettrice@como.polimi.it</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------------</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Da:* Conference_dev <<a href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> per conto</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>di Steven Feldman <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Inviato:* giovedì 15 settembre 2016 15.48</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*A:* Massimiliano Cannata</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Cc:* OSGeo-Conf</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Oggetto:* Re: [OSGeo-Conf] MOTION : Conference Committee - Updating</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Membership Policies and Process</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Maxi</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks for your comments. We are now in the voting stage so I cannot</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>change the motion. However I will try to respond briefly to your comments</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>inline below</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>______</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Steven</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 15 Sep 2016, at 11:25, Massimiliano Cannata <</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dear Steven,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I know i'm late but I hope my comments could be still considered to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>improve the "Membership Policies and Process" of the conference committee.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In general I don't like the idea that only who has chaired a conference is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>entitled to take decision on the conference, is like saying that if you are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>not a developer you cannot be part of a project PSC even if you are a "rock</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>expert in user interaction design" for example or "super power user"...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>often the minister of education is not a professor ;-)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>** The role of the conference committee requires the expertise of past</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>chairs. Only 5 of 11 places are allocated to past chairs, the other places</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>are open to regional chairs or others with equivalent relevant experience</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>here below some detailed comments inline..</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Goals</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>=====</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The conference committee have the responsibility to run the selection</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>process and voting for the global FOSS4G, to vote on other proposals</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>submitted to the committee and to advise the board on other matters</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>relating to FOSS4G events.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Role of the Committee and the broader community on the Conference_Dev list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>============================================================</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1) Everyday topics will be decided upon by an open vote of all list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>participants in a clearly designated separate mail thread (+1/-1) over a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>minimum of two business days with a minimum participation of 3 votes.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ideally we aim for consensus falling back on simple majority vote where</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>necessary. The result will be clearly declared afterwards (or whatever is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>decided).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3 votes out of 11 members and 2 days seems to me too restricted: in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>principle after a motion having 3 positive votes after two bussiness day</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>can be enough to declare passed the motion</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>** we have to set a quorum and a time limit on votes - sometimes decisions</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>are needed relatively quickly. Often only a subset of conference committee</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>members or list participants actually respond. If the current motion is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>passed you could suggest an amendment to increase the quorum and time limit</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2) Election of conference committee is by secret vote and restricted to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the remaining conference committee members and board members who are not</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>members of the conference committee.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I would like to see the votes open to all participants (all the charter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>member that are part of the conference mailing list or are registered as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>interested), not only the remaining committee (otherwise you basically</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>decide with who you want to work).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>** The electorate for new committee members is the combination of the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>remaining committee members AND the Board.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3) FOSS4G Selection - All Letters of Intent and subsequent proposals will</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>be posted to the list for open comment by all participants. The selection</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of the winning proposal is by secret vote of conference committee members</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>only. Any committee member who has a potential conflict of interest is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>expected to withdraw from vote. In the event of a disagreement the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>committee chair will decide.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>What do mean by "In the event of a disagreement the committee chair will</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>decide"? In case of tie the chair decide the winning (that anyway is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>decided by the board as the conference committee provides its indication</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and the board eventually ratify it).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*** you have misunderstood - this is nothing to do with a tied vote. the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>chair decides whether there is a conflict of interest if agreement can’t be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>reached. See the revised version of the motion that was posted today</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>following various people’s comments</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Votes in 2 and 3 are to an online voting service or by email to an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>independent teller appointed by CC Chair</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Conference Committee membership policy and process</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>==========================================</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1) The conference committee aims to retain up to 11 active members,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>preferably an odd number</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2) The committee aims for half of these members to be chairs (or vice</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>chairs) of the most recent FOSS4G global events. The chair of the most</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>recent FOSS4G event will automatically be invited to become a member</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So the "aim" is that the last 5 chairs of global FOSS4G should be members</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of the committee, but if you change 3 member a year, in about 3 years you</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>have changed all the members: so this is not possible, mathematically</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>speaking, unless you recruit both chair and vice-chair in the committee. so</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>you'll have 6 new members in 3 years.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>At this point no more seats are left for regional conference chairs….</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>** I think this will work - The longest standing chair stands down, the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>latest is co-opted onto committee. 2 other longest standing members from</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the remaining 6 non-chair positions retire and 2 new people are elected</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3) The remaining membership is open, ideally attracting people from</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>earlier past chairs or active LOC members from past Global, Regional FOSS4G</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>or related conferences</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>4) Each year (after FOSS4G) the 3 committee members should stand down:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>a) The longest standing past FOSS4G chair</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>b) The longest standing 2 committee members remaining</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Should or Shall, is it a rule or a guideline. What is the longest</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>standing past FOSS4G chair does not stand down? Is he/she forced to resign</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>or banned?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>** My view would be that in our community a ‘should’ is sufficient, if you</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>think a more formal approach is required you can propose an amendment to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>change to ‘shall’ after the vote</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>5) Each year, prior to putting out the Global FOSS4G RfP, the old</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>committee should vote for their replacement committee, using the above</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>criteria as voting guidelines. OSGeo Board members who are not on the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>conference committee will also be invited to vote.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Again, i don't like this self-election of a governing body ;-)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*** see above</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>6) Past committee members including those who have stood down due to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>length of service may stand for re-election</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yes, but basically no seats will be available according to the rule of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>having half of the committee from latest events: oldest out, recent in so</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>oldest no way to get in again ;-) unless others resign (apart from the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>three)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*** see above</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>7) Votes will be secret either using an online voting system or by email</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to a designated teller who is not a voter. The mechanism will be selected</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>by the committee chair.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Why the mechanism is not voted by all the committee members?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*** we will probably continue to use an independent teller as we have in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the past. If the board adopts loomio or some other system for votes we may</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>decide to change to that. We need to get things done rather than spending a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>lot of time considering every list member’s idea of what voting software we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>should use.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I would ask committee members (and list participants) to comment on this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>proposal by 18.00 GMT Wednesday 14th September. I will then call for a vote</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>amongst committee members only, the vote will close at 18.00 GMT on Sunday</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>18th September.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Once the membership policy has been agreed we will then need to apply the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>policy to the existing membership. I suggest that we ask all current</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>members to confirm whether they wish to remain committee members and then</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>hold an election (if needed). To this end it would be helpful if each</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>committee member could update their record on the wiki page to show when</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>they joined the conference committee (see my example).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The intention is that a 2016-7 committee of 11 will have been selected</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>before we vote on the LoI’s for 2018, which is likely to be before the end</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of October.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>______</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Steven</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Conference_dev mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Massimiliano Cannata*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Responsabile settore Geomatica</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Istituto scienze della Terra</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Campus Trevano, CH - 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