<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I am scratching my head, I don’t see how these suggestions could work.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Board voting rules require ALL members to vote, see point 5 below</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote cite="mid:17245B79-5799-4A31-904D-26333B4BEB9B@garnix.org" type="cite" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" class="" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><h1 id="gmail-firstHeading" class="gmail-firstHeading" lang="en" style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0px 0px 0.25em; overflow: visible; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(170, 170, 170); font-size: 1.8em; line-height: 1.3; font-family: 'linux libertine', georgia, times, serif;"><span style="color: rgb(37, 37, 37); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 0.875em;" class="">Voting Process</span></h1><div id="gmail-bodyContent" class="gmail-mw-body-content" style="line-height: 1.6; font-size: 0.875em; color: rgb(37, 37, 37); font-family: sans-serif;"><div id="gmail-mw-content-text" dir="ltr" class="gmail-mw-content-ltr" lang="en" style="direction: ltr;"><ul class="" style="margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px;"><li class="" style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Board voting occurs during monthly meetings, as well as a followup vote through email</li><li class="" style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">each Board member may vote “+1” to indicate support for the motion.</li><li class="" style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">each Board member may vote “-1” to veto a motion, but must provide clear reasoning and alternate approaches to resolving the problem within the two business days.</li><li class="" style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">A vote of "-0" indicates mild disagreement, but has no effect. A "0" indicates no opinion. A "+0" indicate mild support, but has no effect.</li><li class="" style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">A motion will be passed once all of the Board members place a vote, and no vetoes are received (-1).</li><li class="" style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">If a motion is vetoed, and it cannot be revised to satisfy all parties, then it can be resubmitted for an override vote, in which a majority of all Board members indicating +1 is required to pass it.</li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If we now increase the committee membership to 17 (noting that some members have not participated in this discussion at all and most members have restricted their input to a single post of support with a +1 vote) we are unlikely to ever have a valid vote in the future. Add in the option of a veto, re-discussion etc and we are set for very lengthy exercises in decision making.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It would seem to me that we </div><div class=""><ol class="MailOutline"><li class="">either keep a large committee and have a smaller number of voters to make a quorum and accept majority voting (i.e. no veto)</li><li class="">or we have a significantly smaller number of members, with board style voting rules (inc a veto) AND make voting a mandatory criteria of continued membership (with some get out for illness, vacations etc)</li></ol><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We cannot have the numbers, the 100% quorum and the veto, that will result in decision paralysis (this motion might be considered an example)</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The original motion which had substantial support sought to streamline our decision making processes by trimming down the size of the committee through introducing a retirement criteria and clarify voting processes. The current proposal appears to me, to be moving in the opposite direction. I cannot support such a change in direction.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">At what point in this discussion do we follow the course of action in point 6 of the board voting process?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 25 Sep 2016, at 03:53, Venkatesh Raghavan <<a href="mailto:venka.osgeo@gmail.com" class="">venka.osgeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Cameron and all,<br class=""><br class="">Sorry for the delay in my response.<br class="">My comments inline.<br class=""><br class="">On 9/22/2016 5:50 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Thanks Maxi for the suggestion. I like it.<br class=""><br class="">I agree that the board voting processes are good. I'd actually prefer to<br class="">use them as written, without addition of a mention of "needing 50% of<br class="">members to vote".<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I agree to that.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">My reasons:<br class=""><br class="">1. It retains consistency between committees.<br class=""><br class="">2. It will still work within a weakened committee (with many inactive<br class="">members)<br class=""><br class="">Maria, Venka, others,<br class=""><br class="">Do you have any objections to adopting board voting procedures?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I am all for adopting board voting procedures and quorum requirements<br class="">(Section 4.5 of our bylaws [1]). I think the board meeting procedures<br class="">has served us well and can be adopted for our committees too.<br class=""><br class="">I would like to request consideration for following points when<br class="">the revised motion is tabled.<br class=""><br class="">a) The current member list [1] shows 16 members. I would suggest<br class="">that the CC starts off with the current members and we add one<br class="">new member by election to have an odd number of committee members.<br class="">Hence, the committee could have 17 members which is 5% of our<br class="">charter membership (17/312). I think having 5% of our charter<br class="">members to decide about one of our most important activities<br class="">(FOSS4G conference and events) will not only allow us to<br class="">have broad diversity in the CC but the induction of one<br class="">new member (to add to the present 16) would also afford<br class="">an opportunity for some who resigned from the CC in the<br class="">midst of this discussion to return and serve the board.<br class="">17 members in the CC would mean quorum on 9 members for<br class="">a meeting to be valid.<br class=""><br class="">b) Regarding retirement policy, we could adopt same as that<br class="">of the board [2]. CC membership could be for a 2 year term<br class="">with half of the CC seats coming up for election each year.<br class="">We could either consider having an election in 2016 after<br class="">the motion on policies and Process is passed. Or, allow<br class="">the present committee to continue for an year and hold<br class="">election in 2017 with the 9 seats (9 of the longest<br class="">serving members vacating their seats in CC) coming up for<br class="">election.<br class=""><br class="">Voting for CC members could restricted to the remaining conference committee members and board members who are not members of the conference committee (same as what was outlined in the original<br class="">motion tabled by Steve).<br class=""><br class="">Best<br class=""><br class="">Venka<br class=""><br class="">[1] <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html" class="">http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html</a><br class="">[2] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Election_Procedure" class="">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Election_Procedure</a><br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>