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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=NL link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Brilliant idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Conference_dev [mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>Namens </b>massimiliano cannata<br><b>Verzonden:</b> vrijdag 30 september 2016 19:45<br><b>Aan:</b> bitner@dbspatial.com; <conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Voting & commitment<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Dear all,<br>trying to mediate positions I suggest that this Committee could have two bodies:<o:p></o:p></p><p>1) Foss4g voting members that vote once a year<o:p></o:p></p><p>2) a steering group that take care of all the other matters that needs to be decider and agreed<o:p></o:p></p><p>Sound suitable?<o:p></o:p></p><p>Maxi<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Il 30 set 2016 7:30 PM, "David William Bitner" <<a href="mailto:bitner@dbspatial.com">bitner@dbspatial.com</a>> ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I also think in the case of this committee, there is one vote a year that the folks here universally care about: the FOSS4G selection.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Other than that, people clearly have far less energy to spend paying attention to things like governance issues. Low/no quorum can handle this even with a large overall pool of committee members as folks who only care about that one vote can "ride it out" through the year, but pay close attention come rfp/selection time.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Eli Adam <<a href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" target="_blank">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Venkatesh Raghavan<br><<a href="mailto:venka.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">venka.osgeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> The way I look at the 25% quorum threshold, suggested by Eli,<br>> is that it is close to the "benevolent dictatorship"<br>> decision model. One of our projects in incubation<br>> was asked to retire since the lead developer proposed<br>> to adopt such a model for the project PSC.<br><br>25% quorum threshold and "benevolent dictatorship" have nearly nothing<br>in common.<br><br>In benevolent dictatorship 1 person can overrule a 90% majority. This<br>is entirely anti-democratic.<br><br>In low (or no quorum), people can participate as it suits and<br>interests them. If people are fine with the already voted stance,<br>then they don't need to throw in their +1. If people are satisfied<br>with the motion going either way, they certainly don't need to add<br>their +0. During contentious or interesting topics that also fit the<br>timing of activities in people's personal lives, then there is often<br>high participation. While participation may range from 1%-100%, the<br>result is consensus or at least majority. Majority to consensus is<br>entirely democratic. People choosing to not vote is not a loss of<br>democracy. The potential is there if people are so inclined.<br><br>Best regards, Eli<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Conference_dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>************************************<br>David William Bitner<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>dbSpatial LLC<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>612-424-9932<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>Conference_dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>