<p dir="ltr">Hi Till,</p>
<p dir="ltr">it's my concern too, thanks for rising it</p>
<p dir="ltr">j</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, 18:15 Till Adams, <<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de">till.adams@fossgis.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Michael, @ConfCOmm,</p>
    <p>many thanks for the many contributions! Didn't expect that much
      response in such a short time ;-).</p>
    <p>I've drafted a first text about this in the FOss4G Handbook here:</p>
    <p><a class="m_-7993011903087843002moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#On_Site:_Avoid_waste_and_CO2_footprint" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#On_Site:_Avoid_waste_and_CO2_footprint</a></p>
    <p><br>
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    <p>Feel free to change/add/comment!</p></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <p>Till<br>
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    <div class="m_-7993011903087843002moz-cite-prefix">Am 25.07.2017 um 13:50 schrieb Michael
      Terner:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Just
          some quick comments from the Boston team. I think it is fair
          to say that we have an environmental awareness and are doing
          what we can. Some things we can control, other things are
          controlled by the venue. But here is some of what we're
          looking at (and we do support guidance to future LOCs):</div>
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          <ul>
            <li><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">We are going
                +/- "paperless" for our program. Our web/phone app is
                already downloadable from the website.</font></li>
            <li><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Our gala will
                be using single-use but compostable place
                settings/utensils (our Aquarium, the gala site, is
                extremely eco-aware and eco-friendly)</font></li>
            <li><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Massachusetts
                has a strong "bottle bill" and all drink cans/bottles
                will be recycled as there is a $.05 return to be
                collected</font></li>
            <li><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">We are in the
                process of finalizing a simple, practical, affordable
                attendee gifts including a reusable water bottle (loved
                the twitter chatter on the success of the GeoCat water
                bottle) and and a simple, reusable shopping bag; both of
                which can be used both at the conference and after</font></li>
            <li><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Jeroen's point
                is the most complicated. It is totally fair to observe
                that a summer conference interferes with the European
                vacation norm. But September interferes with the start
                of the North American academic year and it is difficult
                to travel during the start of the school year. And,
                September costs are significantly higher than in the
                summer in North America. There is no perfect time, and
                there will always be difficulties for some in making it
                to FOSS4G. I think it will be tricky to "bake in" that
                FOSS4G adapts to one particular community's schedule
                over others'. In other words, my perspective is that it
                should remain up to Conference Dev to choose the best
                proposal that balances timing and costs and the
                creativity of the LOC. Would it be terrible if some of
                the conferences are in Aug, and others in Sept, or Oct?
                By moving around within a window then each community has
                some conferences in the rotation that may be easier, or
                harder to attend.</font></li>
          </ul>
          <div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">We are looking forward to
              seeing many of you in Boston; and also to seeing the new
              Call for Proposals for Europe 2019.</font></div>
          <div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br>
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          <div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">MT</font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:16 AM, Till
          Adams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de" target="_blank">till.adams@fossgis.de</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <p>+1</p>
              <p>I can start woth this these days if okay.</p>
              <p>(I already know of two teams, that are more or less
                waiting for the call)</p>
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                  <p>Till<br>
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                  <div class="m_-7993011903087843002m_-6935595855552049216moz-cite-prefix">Am
                    24.07.2017 um 22:05 schrieb Steven Feldman:<br>
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                  <blockquote type="cite"> We have to start preparing
                    the call for 2019 soon. 
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                    <div>Let’s update the RfP doc to include an
                      environmental section. I expect there are several
                      changes that will need to be made, perhaps a
                      separate thread on the mailing list to gather
                      suggestions<br>
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                          Steven<br>
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                          <div>On 24 Jul 2017, at 14:09, Till Adams <<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de" target="_blank">till.adams@fossgis.de</a>>
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                            <div>Dear ConfComm!<br>
                              <br>
                              There is one issue I'd like to mention and
                              perhaps this is also a topic<br>
                              on that we, as a responsible community,
                              should adress to.<br>
                              <br>
                              Recently I've been to FOSS4G Europe in
                              Paris and I recognized, that a<br>
                              lot of one-way cups and non-returnable
                              bottles were offered during<br>
                              breaks. Thinking back to F4G Europe in
                              Como in 2015 there was even<br>
                              single-use tableware offered for lunch.<br>
                              <br>
                              To make that clear: My goal is not to ask
                              the organizers of the named<br>
                              conferences for justification !!! Both
                              conferences have been phantastic<br>
                              events!<br>
                              <br>
                              I'd like more to awake our environmental
                              awareness somehow:<br>
                              <br>
                              We also had this issue on a FOSSGIS few
                              years ago; a lot of single-use<br>
                              stuff was used for break-caterings. Since
                              this conference, we ask<br>
                              organizers to only offer recycable
                              tableware and bottles on<br>
                              FOSSGIS-conferences.<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              When on the one side one of the goals of
                              our community is to contribute<br>
                              to a better world, it makes not much
                              sense, when we leave amounts of<br>
                              waste behind us and have a raising
                              CO2-footprint after every of our events.<br>
                              <br>
                              For Bonn we decided not to offer any
                              non-recycable stuff, we also asked<br>
                              attendees to balance their CO2-emmission
                              because of flights on a<br>
                              voluntary base (eg. atmosfair). To be
                              honest, I don't know if anybody<br>
                              did, but at least we tried.<br>
                              <br>
                              Maybe that's because I am german and
                              although we sell fraudulent<br>
                              diesel-cars, we have a favour for
                              recycable bottles, cans and everything<br>
                              (even French winemakers put a green dot on
                              their bottles, to indicate,<br>
                              that they are recycable in Germany ;-))
                              and I also know, that it is<br>
                              often not that easy to have this offer in
                              other countries as well - but:<br>
                              <br>
                              How about adding a topic "Environmental
                              Responsibility" to our<br>
                              "Conference Manual" and encourage future
                              LOC's to have an enhanced eye<br>
                              on these kind of topics? We also might
                              request that future bids include<br>
                              an abstract on how to handle this issue
                              based on the local<br>
                              possibilities. It's up to every
                              ConfComm-member, how to include that<br>
                              into his/her voting.<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              Till<br>
                              <br>
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