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<p>Dear David,</p>
<p>but I guess that here (as so oten) communication is the key. If
I'd received a clear statement "sorry Till/CC, I will not make it
this year" that would help a lot. In case for this, we could
change the number of votes in advance and don't get the danger of
not having a quorum ;-)</p>
<p>Reagrds, Till<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 23.01.2018 um 20:27 schrieb David
William Bitner:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">My apologies for not replying. I have been very
busy as-of-late, traveling during both vote periods and did not
have time to do a thorough review of the proposals and as such
did not vote on the RfPs.
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<div>I am happy to step aside from the committee if that is the
direction that this group would like to take for members who
may not be able to engage every year, but to my opinion, we
bring folks onto this committee because of their experience
and trust that we have in them. Part of that trust is that
they will act only when they can give the proper due
diligence. I would like to stay engaged with this committee
(and will regardless of if I am a voting member) but cannot
commit that I will be able to do appropriate due diligence
each year, and in the case that I cannot I will not vote.</div>
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<div>I see very little problem in having a large committee here
and in fact think that as long as we are very deliberative on
who we bring in, having a large committee can help to mitigate
that not everyone is going to be willing or able to spend the
time each and every year reviewing proposals. </div>
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<div>I absolutely and enthusiastically second the nomination of
Guido and Michael. I also support the nomination of Gerald and
believe that getting more regional chairs involved and trying
to bridge the brick wall that seems to exist between how we
look at the regional events and the "Big Show" can only help
us be more strategic and reach out to more people, companies,
business sectors, and different parts of the world.</div>
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<div>David</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:33 AM, Till
Adams <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">till.adams@fossgis.de</a>></span>
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Conference comittee,<br>
<br>
this is a general reminder on some decisions/discussions,
that I have on<br>
my list we have to talk about in the following weeks. This
email serves<br>
just as a general list-up with the hope, that you'll find
some time to<br>
think about some of my issues. If you have your own things
to bring in,<br>
feel free to share!<br>
<br>
I will list these points as seperate issues below and would
be happy if<br>
we start a discussion:<br>
<br>
1. Voting Members<br>
<br>
For the last RfP, where we nominated Bucharest as venue for
the 2019<br>
conference, we had a weak quorum, because quite some members
did not<br>
vote. I sent out personal emails to the non-voters and
received feedback<br>
from 3 of the 5 non-voters. These 3 excused themselves, they
had reasons<br>
and they are willing to stay on board and that makes me
happy.<br>
<br>
Leads me to the question, that I still did not get any
feedback from the<br>
other 2. Now it's already some weeks ago that I contacted
them,<br>
including a remembering mail.<br>
I don't know if we have an official trial to rule out people
and<br>
personnally I wouldn't like to do that, because I know at
least one of<br>
the 2 personally.<br>
On the other side, we can't be sure, that they will appear
back once<br>
upon a time. Not re-appearing means that we have to fear
more weak<br>
quorums in the future.<br>
<br>
Issue 1: How do we act here?<br>
<br>
This directly leads me to question 2: I will nominate Guido
Stein and<br>
Michael Terner as new members for the CC later. I think as
former chairs<br>
of a successful global FOSS4G conference, it is without
question clear,<br>
that we need them as new members in CC. Also there was a
request of<br>
Gerald Fenoy back this summer, where he asked for
participation as member.<br>
I am little unsure here, because I fear, that we will have a
huge CC<br>
within a few years, when we also nominate all past chairs of
regional<br>
events. In my eyes (without rating!!!) organizing a regional
event is a<br>
cmletely different game than having a global FOSS4G. And our
job is to<br>
vote on proposals for global conferences venues. On the
other side, of<br>
course, having some more active members inside CC wouldn't
be the badest<br>
idea.<br>
<br>
Issue 2: Accept nomination of Gerald Fenoy (and potential
other regional<br>
chairs?) ?<br>
<br>
<br>
2. Voting process<br>
We discussed to alter the voting process, so that for step 1
(LOI<br>
acceptance) of the RfP 2019 we had this new "thumbs
up"/"thumbs down"<br>
vote. I will soon call for a vote, whether we want to keep
this<br>
procedure or go back to the old "one vote per member" also
for step 1.<br>
<br>
<br>
3. Bid process<br>
I do not know, how you felt in the last RfP. I had problems
in comparing<br>
the two proposals, because one of them was very close to the
draft we<br>
gave out and the Sevilla one was, let's say, "freely
interpreted" ;-).<br>
I don't want to limit the teams' individual imagination, but
perhaps it<br>
would be easier for comparing the proposals, if all
proposals would have<br>
the same agenda. This also would save the teams from
spending money on a<br>
marketing agency for layout things (I do not want to impute,
that this<br>
happened in 2019, but this *might* happen in the future in
order to put<br>
one proposal in a better light). I wil call for a vote on
this issue<br>
soon as well.<br>
<br>
<br>
So far, have a nice day!<br>
<br>
Till<br>
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