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<div>Thanks Maria</div>
<div>I agree that F2F is a good occasion for this conversation.</div>
<div>Best</div>
<div>Maria </div>
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-------- Messaggio originale --------<br>
Da: María Arias de Reyna <delawen@gmail.com> <br>
Data: 07/03/18 08:38 (GMT+01:00) <br>
A: Mark Iliffe <markiliffe@gmail.com> <br>
Cc: "Astrid Emde (OSGeo)" <astrid_emde@osgeo.org>, Helena Mitasova <hmitaso@ncsu.edu>, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com>, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com>, Maria Antonia Brovelli <maria.brovelli@polimi.it>, Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com>,
Vasile Craciunescu <vasile@geo-spatial.org>, tzotsos@osgeo.org, OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>, Conference Dev <conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org>
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Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] LGBT in OSGeo <br>
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<div class="PlainText">Dear Mark,<br>
<br>
Thank you very much for your email.<br>
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I agree we should continue the discussion in the open. Now we have a<br>
clear view of the current situation from the board (and people<br>
following that list). A reason why I personally haven't moved this<br>
quicker more open is because I don't want OSGeo to be responsible of<br>
people coming out of the closet on the community and then travelling<br>
to Tanzania and having problems because of that. The risk is very low,<br>
as you have confirmed, but this is a very sensitive issue in many<br>
countries. Everyone should be aware of this before starting to point<br>
personal experiences, especially people coming from privileged<br>
countries where being LGBT+ is not only legal, but socially accepted.<br>
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We have an OSGeo meeting in Bonn very soon and I think that is a<br>
proper place to discuss this, as it will be face to face and some<br>
people will be able to discuss this without having to write their<br>
names anywhere. I agree there should be an LGBT+ group inside OSGeo,<br>
and maybe we should provide the tools to allow members from sensitive<br>
countries/personal situations to participate anonymously. (How? I<br>
don't know yet.) And we should promote also some kind of diversity<br>
advice group, where all kind of discriminations can be addressed.<br>
Maybe merge this idea with the CoC team? Maybe a separated dedicated<br>
team? I don't know.<br>
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Thanks for this and if you need some immediate action from the board,<br>
just let us know.<br>
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Regards,<br>
María.<br>
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Mark Iliffe <markiliffe@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
> Dear OSGeo Board,<br>
><br>
> On the 20th of February I wrote in response to a concern raised on LGBT+<br>
> concerns in Dar es Salaam. To this, set out the following four action<br>
> points:<br>
><br>
>> To help move forward on this, we will 1. Ensure that we provide guidance<br>
>> to those in our community on this issue; 2. Seek dialog within our community<br>
>> on this issue, I am personally contactable on this and fully welcome any and<br>
>> all people who wish to discuss this on a face-to-face (over VC) or any other<br>
>> medium that the community would feel better with; 3. Recommend that the<br>
>> board puts in place guidance for future OSGEO conferences other this issues;<br>
>> 4. Support the formation of an LGBT+ grouping within OSGEO to better support<br>
>> appropriate guidance on this issue.<br>
><br>
><br>
> To update on this:<br>
><br>
> 1. We are collaborating with Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team on this issue,<br>
> to ensure that the response to our mutual communities are in lock-step on<br>
> this issue. Guidance will be published for consultation for the conference<br>
> shortly;<br>
> 2. I have reached out to members of the LGBT+ community that I know<br>
> personally on a bilateral basis. I would welcome further dialogue with the<br>
> OSGeo LGBT+ community on a bilateral, private basis for people to voice<br>
> their concerns in confidence;<br>
><br>
> Points 3 and 4 are of specific interest, in the view of the LOC of FOSS4G<br>
> 2018, as we can set policy direction for our conference, but have no mandate<br>
> nor mechanism to set policy across OSGeo. To this end, I would formally<br>
> request, in my role of Chair of FOSS4G for the OSGeo Board to provide<br>
> direction to future FOSS4G conferences and to further support and service<br>
> this community within our wider community.<br>
><br>
> Clearly, there is a desire for LGBT+ to be considered further in our<br>
> community - as noted in the transcript of the previous board meeting [1],<br>
> but I think this needs to be communicated to our wider community - I see the<br>
> discussions on the OSGeo board mailing list, though this may not have the<br>
> widest circulation. I am also available to have a video conference with the<br>
> board, at their earliest possible convenience if such an invitation was<br>
> extended.<br>
><br>
> Finally, I really want to stress this for our conference in Dar es Salaam<br>
> this year to our community: We want to have the most inclusive conference<br>
> that we can possibly have. In the same way that previous FOSS4G events in<br>
> Boston and North Carolina have demonstrated, our conferences have dealt with<br>
> challenges within the wider legislative framework of their host country, we<br>
> as a community are welcoming to any and all with open arms. We will publish<br>
> guidance for those travelling, and if you still wish to participate but<br>
> cannot come to Dar es Salaam, get in touch with us - we will help you get<br>
> involved! Our FOSS4G will only be successful due to ALL the people in our<br>
> OSGeo community; we are a big and dynamic family - we will reflect and live<br>
> that this year in Dar es Salaam, and I hope in the many years to come.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Mark<br>
><br>
> [1] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-03-01">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-03-01</a><br>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> From: jorge.dejesus <jorge.dejesus@geocat.net><br>
> Date: 21 February 2018 at 08:26<br>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] LGBT in Tanzania<br>
> To: conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org<br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi to all<br>
><br>
> I was following the LGBT in Tanzania discussion, and I am happy to see the<br>
> question added to the next RfP.<br>
><br>
> The discussion on LGBT rights and safety requires a bit of common sense, I<br>
> am LGBT it is one part of my live as being OsGEO member is another (one of<br>
> many) part(s), normally these two don't intercept much, personally I think<br>
> this is why the LGBT community is present in OsGEO but very invisible.<br>
> What?? No LGBT birds of the feather in FOSS4G ???<br>
><br>
> Having a code of conduct that is non discriminatory, we must take into<br>
> consideration the rights of minorities and safety of ALL the participants of<br>
> and a OsGEO conference, the LOC have to do their best for the safety. LOC<br>
> should also informed participants on what are the real problems that<br>
> participants may have to face, then is up to the participants to decide if<br>
> they fell comfortable to to attend the conference.<br>
><br>
> Again, nice to see this topic discussed and remember these comments are my 2<br>
> cents<br>
><br>
> Enjoy your day<br>
> Jorge<br>
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> On 21-02-18 10:30, Till Adams wrote:<br>
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> Darrell, @ohers,<br>
><br>
> thanks for the sum up, I agree in including such a question in the next<br>
> RfP. In order to preserve your proposal, I've added your questionTill here:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Rfp">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Rfp</a><br>
><br>
> I will add this to the next RfP-text.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Till<br>
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> Am 20.02.2018 um 18:32 schrieb Darrell Fuhriman:<br>
><br>
> "FOSS4G attracts a global, diverse community. Are there any laws, or<br>
> social norms, in your proposed location that would make members of our<br>
> community feel unsafe or unwelcome? That could include, but is not<br>
> limited to, anti-LGBTQ+ policies, policies that would prevent the free<br>
> exercise of religion, restrictions on certain activities based on<br>
> gender or other factor, etc?”<br>
><br>
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