<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hi Paul,<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I wasnt subscribed to the list, so when you clicked the reply to all, the Conference-dev mailing list was omitted</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I just subscribed and sent my request to the Conference Committee members <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">So I am sending forwarding to the Conference Dev list, in order to keep mail history complete.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards<br></div></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Vicky</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:06 PM Paul Ramsey <<a href="mailto:pramsey@cleverelephant.ca">pramsey@cleverelephant.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I think the word I was actually reaching for was "debrief". After an RFP or a job interview it's expected that the candidates have an opportunity to ask for a debrief to understand what is going on.<div><br></div><div>I didn't vote, but if I had I would have voted for Calgary. As Eli noted there were no major show-stoppers on either side, both locations could have hosted successfully, based on the submitted bids, so it came down to relatively small things. </div><div><br></div><div>- Calgary is better connected internationally, and in North America, with more direct flights, cheaper flights, to more destinations</div><div>- Calgary arrived with more sponsorship dollars already "in hand", so had a lower risk profile</div><div><br></div><div>P.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:57 AM Vicky Vergara <<a href="mailto:vicky@georepublic.de" target="_blank">vicky@georepublic.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hello Conference Committee members:</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">On recommendation of Paul Ramsey, and using his terminology<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">As member of the Halifax team: <br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I would like to make a "post-mortem" public request of:</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Clarifying the details of the results of the second phase.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Based on the details of that result I would make or no make a "post-mortem" confidential request for feedback<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Consider that:<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From my point of view, 12-1 7-6 make a huge difference</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">As some results like 12-1 for me means: that we, Halifax team, did something really wrong (Would make the "post-mortem" confidential request).<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">As other results like 7-6 , for me means: that we, Halifax team, did a very good job, and the decision was tough.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Vicky (member of the Halifax team)<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:22 AM Paul Ramsey <<a href="mailto:pramsey@cleverelephant.ca" target="_blank">pramsey@cleverelephant.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't think the numbers, whether 12-1 or 7-6 will be particularly explanatory. If you want a post-mortem to apply to future bids I'd suggest approaching committee members on a confidential basis for their feedback on their personal decision process... I imagine a pattern would emerge (I hope a pattern would emerge!) after a few conversations.<div><br></div><div>P.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:33 AM Vasile Craciunescu <<a href="mailto:vasile@geo-spatial.org" target="_blank">vasile@geo-spatial.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Well, traditionally, the results are not made public, only the winner is disclosed. <div><br></div><div>Vasile<br><br><div id="gmail-m_-4142921776350767033gmail-m_992985761122541124gmail-m_6065179830179762171gmail-m_7298353990647991936AppleMailSignature">Sent from my mobile device</div><div><br>On 18 Dec 2018, at 17:25, Vicky Vergara <<a href="mailto:vicky@georepublic.de" target="_blank">vicky@georepublic.de</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Ah, how much more? 12-1 still worries me<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:20 AM Vasile Craciunescu <<a href="mailto:vasile@geo-spatial.org" target="_blank">vasile@geo-spatial.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Vicky,<div><br></div><div>The total number of votes is 13. Not all of them went to Calgary. They just got more votes than Halifax. </div><div><br></div><div>Congratulations to both teams for the impressing proposals.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Vasile<br><br><div id="gmail-m_-4142921776350767033gmail-m_992985761122541124gmail-m_6065179830179762171gmail-m_7298353990647991936gmail-m_1348581071887339207AppleMailSignature">Sent from my mobile device</div><div><br>On 18 Dec 2018, at 17:01, Vicky Vergara <<a href="mailto:vicky@georepublic.de" target="_blank">vicky@georepublic.de</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hello all</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">This is Vicky from Halifax team.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Congratulations Calgary for the impressive win of 13 votes.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2018-December/005017.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2018-December/005017.html</a><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I wonder if someone can give some feed back on what we did so, so so wrong that we didn't get any vote?</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Vicky<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 8:34 AM María Arias de Reyna <<a href="mailto:delawen@gmail.com" target="_blank">delawen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 2:12 PM michael terner <<a href="mailto:ternergeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">ternergeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">+1 on Til's fair and accurate response.<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Indeed, it was a fair and open process, with only the vote being non-public but supervised by two respected CROs. As observed by Til, the one "issue" that arose on the recusal was addressed on the public Conference Dev mailing list. Actually, the only thing that is not open is the origin of the phrase used in Maria's first email today: "<span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#741b47">there has been some concerns raised.</font>" Where are these "concerns" coming from? When were they raised? Are they limited to the "recusal issue" from Venka? If not, what are the additional concerns?</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No, no additional concerns. Just the one made on the conference dev mailing list.<br></div></div></div>
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Salzmannstraße 44,
81739 München, Germany
Vicky Vergara
Operations Research
eMail: vicky@<a href="http://georepublic.de" target="_blank">georepublic.de</a>
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