<div dir="ltr">Im +1 too ... and managing the FOSS4G-NA list now ... which could not be handed over from Eclipse for policy reasons.<div><br></div><div>I do however recall some 'complaints' on the discuss list about Mailchimp 'tracking' with links. Im sure if this were brought up there, someone would have something to say against it. Thats about par for the course though I guess?</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 11:28 AM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>+1 Great idea for reasons already mentioned.<br>
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    <div class="gmail-m_2418146119616670887moz-cite-prefix">On 25/1/19 8:56 pm, Jachym Cepicky
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        <div>+1 to anything, what helps</div>
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        <div>J<br>
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          odesílatel Amanda Taub <<a href="mailto:ataub.gis@gmail.com" target="_blank">ataub.gis@gmail.com</a>>
          napsal:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">I assist in running the Mailchimp account for
            Washington URISA. It is very possible to have separate email
            lists for different regions and for OSGeo overall. It is
            easy enough to setup these lists and create an opt-in page.
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                                                <div dir="ltr"><font size="2"><span>Amanda H.S. Taub, GISP <br>
                                                      Central Washington
                                                      GIS User Group
                                                       (CWGIS)
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                                                    <span>Washington URISA (WAURISA) Marketing Volunteer</span></font></div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_2418146119616670887gmail-m_3471416171478281937gmail_attr">On
              Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:53 AM Msilikale Msilanga <<a href="mailto:msilikalemsilanga@gmail.com" target="_blank">msilikalemsilanga@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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              <div>+1 
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                <div>It is a good idea especially that African community
                  who did not have any information regarding OSGeo
                  before are now following up updates on FOSS4G
                  conferences. It is only because of that now many
                  African community want to participate into the FOSS4G
                  conferences. </div>
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                <div>I also agree with <a href="mailto:ternergeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">Michael Terner</a> </div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>Best,</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>Msilikale<br>
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                      <div>On 24 Jan 2019, at 2:49 PM, Guido Stein <<a href="mailto:guido@guidostein.com" target="_blank">guido@guidostein.com</a>>
                        wrote:</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr">+1 I like the ideas shared in
                          this thread.<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_2418146119616670887gmail-m_3471416171478281937gmail-m_-8325952260575204012gmail_attr">On
                            Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:25 PM Steven Feldman
                            <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
                            wrote:<br>
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                            <div>We don’t need separate lists, it is
                              much easier to manage all of our FOSS4G
                              contacts in one list. We can tag records
                              as we load them with a region and/or we
                              can add them to groups by allowing them to
                              select their preferences and tick what
                              regions they want to receive info about. 
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                                    <div>______<br>
                                      Steven<br>
                                      <br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Unusual maps in strange places
                                      -  <a href="http://mappery.org/" target="_blank">mappery.org</a><br>
                                      <a href="http://twitter.com/mapsinthewild" target="_blank">@MapsintheWild</a></div>
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                                    <div>On 24 Jan 2019, at 15:58, Eli
                                      Adam <<a href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" target="_blank">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>>
                                      wrote:</div>
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                                        <div>I agree this is a good
                                          idea.  I also echo Michael's
                                          comments and think that it is
                                          probably best to have separate
                                          lists for separate events
                                          (even if managed through the
                                          same MailChimp account).<input name="virtru-metadata" value="{"email-policy":{"state":"closed","expirationUnit":"days","disableCopyPaste":false,"disablePrint":false,"disableForwarding":false,"enableNoauth":false,"expires":false,"isManaged":false},"attachments":{},"compose-id":"1","compose-window":{"secure":false}}" type="hidden"></div>
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                                        <div>"tech" things that have
                                          regular bills are usually
                                          "owned" by SAC or at least SAC
                                          owns the paying the bill
                                          part.  We could ask SAC. 
                                          Managing the account seems
                                          like a conference committee
                                          duty, at least for the global
                                          FOSS4G.</div>
                                        <div><br>
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                                        <div>Best regards, Eli</div>
                                        <br>
                                        <div class="gmail_quote">
                                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_2418146119616670887gmail-m_3471416171478281937gmail-m_-8325952260575204012gmail-m_7898325452752765720gmail_attr">On
                                            Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 7:14 AM
                                            michael terner <<a href="mailto:ternergeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">ternergeo@gmail.com</a>>
                                            wrote:<br>
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                                              <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I
                                                think this is a great
                                                idea. Of course, it'd
                                                also be great if some
                                                "best practices" and
                                                how-to materials
                                                accompanied this
                                                transition (e.g., how to
                                                create a new campaign,
                                                how to open access to
                                                individual conferences
                                                [e.g., there might be
                                                two conferences using
                                                the list concurrently],
                                                etc.). The only downside
                                                I see is that the list
                                                could potentially erode
                                                due to opt outs
                                                emanating from regional
                                                events hitting the whole
                                                list. For instance, if
                                                I'm in the USA and I
                                                start getting lots of
                                                emails for European
                                                events, I may choose to
                                                opt out, and then I'd be
                                                off the global list too.
                                                Or, perhaps, a best
                                                practice would be to
                                                require/strongly suggest
                                                regional filtering for
                                                regional events, i.e.,
                                                in my European event
                                                example, they'd filter
                                                to only mail to European
                                                countries.</div>
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                                              <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Just
                                                some thoughts that this
                                                is not necessarily as
                                                simple as it seems, and
                                                we should think about
                                                the best practices and a
                                                smooth implementation.
                                                Who/what committee from
                                                OSGeo might be
                                                considered to "own" this
                                                resource?</div>
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                                              <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">My
                                                $.02...</div>
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                                              <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">MT</div>
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                                              <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan
                                                24, 2019 at 7:43 AM
                                                Steven Feldman <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
                                                wrote:<br>
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                                                <div>I think this is a
                                                  great idea both from
                                                  ensuring continuity
                                                  and sustainability for
                                                  future FOSS4G’s and
                                                  also from a GDPR
                                                  standpoint (the group
                                                  of GDPR volunteers
                                                  have not forgotten
                                                  that we need to get
                                                  OSGeo to be full GDPR
                                                  compliant!!)<br>
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                                                      <div>______<br>
                                                        Steven<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Unusual maps
                                                        in strange
                                                        places -  <a href="http://mappery.org/" target="_blank">mappery.org</a><br>
                                                        <a href="http://twitter.com/mapsinthewild" target="_blank">@MapsintheWild</a></div>
                                                    </span>
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                                                  <div><br>
                                                    <blockquote type="cite">
                                                      <div>On 24 Jan
                                                        2019, at 09:53,
                                                        Vasile
                                                        Craciunescu <<a href="mailto:vasile@geo-spatial.org" target="_blank">vasile@geo-spatial.org</a>>
                                                        wrote:</div>
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                                                        <div>Dear
                                                          colleagues,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I hope my
                                                          email finds
                                                          you well. I
                                                          will like to
                                                          ask your
                                                          opinion on a
                                                          item that can
                                                          be associated
                                                          with the
                                                          Conference
                                                          Committee. At
                                                          least since
                                                          Boston, the
                                                          various LOC of
                                                          FOSS4G global
                                                          are using
                                                          MaiChimp [1]
                                                          for
                                                          communication
                                                          with potential
                                                          participants,
                                                          register
                                                          participants
                                                          and the
                                                          sponsors. The
                                                          account is
                                                          passed from
                                                          one LOC to
                                                          another
                                                          without any
                                                          formal
                                                          agreement.
                                                          There are more
                                                          than 5000
                                                          contacts
                                                          subscribed to
                                                          this channel,
                                                          all past
                                                          participants
                                                          at FOSS4G
                                                          international
                                                          or FOSS4G-NA.
                                                          All agreed to
                                                          be subscribed
                                                          and receive
                                                          communication
                                                          from
                                                          OSGeo/LOCs
                                                          regarding
                                                          FOSS4G topics.
                                                          Compliance
                                                          with GDPR [2]
                                                          is also
                                                          assured.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          My question to
                                                          you if is not
                                                          better to have
                                                          OSGeo take
                                                          over this
                                                          account and
                                                          provide access
                                                          to FOSS4G
                                                          LOC's. Why I'm
                                                          saying this:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          1. By having
                                                          no formal way
                                                          of handling
                                                          this there is
                                                          a chance to
                                                          loose the
                                                          account
                                                          (lists,
                                                          templates,
                                                          campaigns
                                                          reports, etc)
                                                          in case of bad
                                                          communication
                                                          among the
                                                          LOC's.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          2. The account
                                                          is not a big
                                                          financial
                                                          burden for the
                                                          LOC (approx
                                                          77$/month) but
                                                          at transition
                                                          time some
                                                          glitches can
                                                          occur. E.g.
                                                          last year,
                                                          Mark paid for
                                                          1-2 months
                                                          from his
                                                          pocket because
                                                          BLOC was slow
                                                          to react and
                                                          replace his
                                                          card in the
                                                          account
                                                          settings. This
                                                          can be avoid
                                                          if OSGeo take
                                                          care of the
                                                          account.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          3. The account
                                                          can be also
                                                          used by the
                                                          important
                                                          regional
                                                          FOSS4G events
                                                          like FOSS4G-NA
                                                          and
                                                          FOSS4G-Europe.
                                                          There are
                                                          mechanism to
                                                          have separate
                                                          campaigns and
                                                          target the
                                                          subscribes
                                                          geographically.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Of course, no
                                                          LOC can be
                                                          forced to use
                                                          MailChimp for
                                                          communication
                                                          purposes. Is
                                                          just an idea,
                                                          in the context
                                                          os OSGeo
                                                          budget
                                                          discussion, to
                                                          make things
                                                          easy for the
                                                          future LOCs.
                                                          What do you
                                                          think?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -Vasile<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          [1] <a href="https://mailchimp.com/" target="_blank">https://mailchimp.com</a><br>
                                                          [2] <a href="https://eugdpr.org/" target="_blank">https://eugdpr.org</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -- <br>
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                                                          Vasile
                                                          Crăciunescu<br>
                                                          <a href="http://geo-spatial.org/" target="_blank">geo-spatial.org</a>: An elegant
                                                          place for
                                                          sharing
                                                          geoKnowledge
                                                          & geoData<br>
                                                          <a href="http://www.geo-spatial.org/" target="_blank">http://www.geo-spatial.org</a><br>
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