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<p>Till, I provided feedback into the Google Docs version (now more
recent than the wiki):</p>
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<p>I now only have read access so can't show history and show diff
between versions. (Hopefully you can).</p>
<p>Re travel grant recipients, I think there are a few different
profiles of people we want to attract:</p>
<p>1. People who will be inspired to go back into their communities
and become agents of change, after they have connected with like
minded people at foss4g. (Maybe by setting up a local or regional
FOSS4G).<br>
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<p>2. "The lone hacker" - who has been doing amazing stuff by
themselves, and who we can bring to foss4g to meet the rest of
their team, and who might be able to inspire others.</p>
<p>3. The diversity gap person. Helping balance out power imbalances
by helping to empower the less empowered groups.<br>
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<p>4. ... and probably more ...<br>
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<p>We should be considering the "Return on Investment" for each of
these different criteria, for each person we consider. As
mentioned by Adam, each region has different profiles for this
"Return on Investment" equation which we should respect and
support. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/2/19 6:39 pm, Till Adams wrote:<br>
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<p>Dear list!</p>
<p>Great to get so much feedback - that was my intention ...;-).
OSGeo's CC is alive!<br>
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<p>I will try to figure out a draft based on all the comments
today or tomorrow. Maybe we decouple the call for TGP and the
decision process. We can discuss the 2nd and then setup a
chapter on the WIKI.</p>
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<div>I wrote and deleted a long post which said
effectively +1 to Mark’s comments. The very
short version is that air travel is pretty
much the only way to get around much of
Oceania, and as such needs to be an option
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<div>+1 to a lot of what Mark said. Mark (and the Dar
LOC) certainly set a high standard for what the TGP can
be. I was certainly glad to help a little bit on that
process (and seeing how much the TGP had grown since some
of our efforts in PDX was humbling - nice work). But
again these are criteria that will be set by the LOC
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<div>I’m struggling a little with Eli’s idea of
funding based on expected conference
attendance. Again, in Oceania conferences
might not be huge but TGP support costs are
high. I’d preference assessment on a case by
case basis (ie the conference LOC puts up a
proposal, it is assessed - but proposals all
have to be submitted in the open), with maybe
some work to develop guidelines around ‘if you
live in region X, plan around cost Y per TGP
funded attendee’. Of course, this is prima
facie unfair because it’s a lot cheaper to
support a TGP attendee in Tanzania than it is
in Oceania. Food for thought/further
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<div>My suggestion was intended as a general starting
guideline and not intended as rigid. </div>
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<div>Oceania (or other regions) can certainly make their
case for why their portion should be multiplied by Z. </div>
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<div>Also, different regions may be able to support a
different number of TGP recipients based on various
factors. I've made cases for TGP recipients very near
(and costing very little) as well as very distant with
poor transportation connectivity (and costing a sizable
portion of the total TGP but there were not going to be
closer/easier FOSS4G events for them in the near future,
but maybe they would be the seed that grows FOSS4G
there). </div>
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<div>Hopefully we take a reasonable approach that is open to
reason, revision, and flexibility and gets better over
time. </div>
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<div>Best regards, Eli</div>
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<div>…and of course, a fine rebuttal would be
‘work harder on sponsorship/fundraising!
There’s money in the region, extract it!'</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
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