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<p>Dear Maria,</p>
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<p>(sorry for starting an email discussion, if we can't agreee and
before it gets too hard, we might switch into a telco or s.th.
similar.)<br>
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<p>is your statement a kind of "-0" which says you do not agree or
is this a "-1" which means, that you will actively block any
effort in that direction?</p>
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<p>As you already lined out an alternative ("in case we do not find
an opportunity to spend the money, we ask the board to put it on
our next years budget") a "-1" would be okay for me -- although I
would really like to understand the "why".</p>
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<p>Let me just say some words from my side: Since this year we as CC
have a budget, but maybe it is not so well known, that we can
support also local/regional conferences with their travel grant
programme. So one might say, okay, if we get this fact more spread
in the comunity, it is better to have more money next year. On the
other hand, we have this TGP at least on the gloabal conferences
since few years and always we mention it, everybody is happy and
says this is a great thing to do - because it lowers - at least
for some - the barreer for participation on a F4G conference. <br>
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<p>Which is one of the main goals of OSGeo: Building a community and
giving everybody the chance to participate in our community.<br>
</p>
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<p>So, I dare to state, that we all think, that TGP is a great
thing, right?<br>
</p>
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<p>So, one scenario for F4G Oceania might have been, they did not
dare to request for more budget, because they wanted to be fair to
potential other local chapters, that request money (which would
have been quite nice BTW). <br>
</p>
<p>Other point might have been, that they did not know, how the
conference taking place end of the year develops, when they
requested TGP money early in the year.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Nevertheless, what was the reason for not claiming for more
TGP-budget, I don't see the point, why not giving them now (in
case that no other local chapter wants to) more money that would
defenitely help them to prosper their community (which is the
reason for TGP at all). <br>
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<p>Also I see especially their community, as the participants come
from places, that might be far to the conference city. So, if we
want to have more budget for TGP for next year, I think it's
clever to a) spent our 2019 budget completely and b) find a clear
argumentation towards the board, why we need more budget for TGP.</p>
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<p>Hey CC, how do you others think?<br>
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<p>Till<br>
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<b>Inviato:</b> martedì 3 settembre 2019 07:58<br>
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<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Motion: 2nd Call for TGP
for local events / Applicaiton for Travel Grant
Programme"OSGeo Oceania" 2019</font>
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<p>Dear Maria,</p>
<p>AFAIK we already agreed on having a 2nd call this year,
so the only change is to allow the Oceanian chapter to
apply again and for more money.</p>
<p>(BTW: I personally do not see any sense in now deciding
to save the money for next year, if there is interest ;-)
)</p>
<p>Till<br>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Am 02.09.19 um 12:02 schrieb
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In my opinion it is better to give them what was
requested and ask the Board to add the remaining
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<b>Subject:</b> [OSGeo-Conf] Motion: 2nd Call for
TGP for local events / Applicaiton for Travel Grant
Programme"OSGeo Oceania" 2019</font>
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<div class="x_PlainText">Dear Conference Committee,<br>
<br>
at FOSS4G in Bucharest I talked to John (see "CC")
from the Oceania F4G<br>
and pointed him to the fact, that we still have
5.500 Us $ left on our<br>
TGP budget for 2019.<br>
<br>
I would better dedicate the money to them than
letting it remain unused.<br>
The problem is little the time, as their conference
will be in November.<br>
<br>
<br>
I would propose the following:<br>
<br>
We kick out a call for TGP Support very soon (the
same that we already<br>
did in April - with no reply beside the Ocenaian
Team). I would suggest<br>
John to answer that one as well and request for more
support. If we get<br>
other applications, we have to discuss, if not, we
can offer the<br>
Oceanian Team the rest of our 2019 budget.<br>
<br>
Any thoughts on that? Please vote until 8th of
September.<br>
<br>
<br>
Till<br>
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Am 20.05.19 um 14:23 schrieb Till Adams:<br>
> Dear CC!<br>
><br>
> after my email below no vetoes came in. This
means, we agree to support<br>
> Oceania TGP with 2.500 US $, congrats to John
and his team!<br>
><br>
> @John, please contact the board (as last year)
for payment details.<br>
> Hopefully the moneyh elps to get at least some
people over ;-)<br>
><br>
><br>
> Till<br>
><br>
><br>
> Am 13.05.19 um 13:49 schrieb Till Adams:<br>
>> Dear CC!<br>
>><br>
>> Sorry, I did not giv a deadline for this
motion. Up now, I received<br>
>> several "+1" votes and no vote against. If
anybody want to express *not*<br>
>> to support or has any questions supporting
Oceanian TGP with 2.500 US $,<br>
>> please vote against until 17th of May.<br>
>><br>
>> Till<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Am 03.05.19 um 06:46 schrieb Sanghee Shin:<br>
>>> +1<br>
>>><br>
>>> <br>
>>><br>
>>> 신상희<br>
>>> ---<br>
>>> Shin, Sanghee<br>
>>> Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company<br>
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>>><br>
>>> <br>
>>><br>
>>> *보낸 사람: *Vasile Craciunescu <<a
href="mailto:vasile@geo-spatial.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:vasile@geo-spatial.org</a>><br>
>>> *보낸 날짜: *2019년5월3일 금요일 오후1:32<br>
>>> *받는 사람: *conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org<br>
>>> <<a
href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> *제목: *Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Motion:
Applicaiton for Travel Grant<br>
>>> Programme"OSGeo Oceania" 2019<br>
>>><br>
>>> <br>
>>><br>
>>> +1<br>
>>><br>
>>> <br>
>>><br>
>>> -Vasile<br>
>>><br>
>>> <br>
>>><br>
>>> On 02/05/2019 17:35, Till Adams wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Dear CC!<br>
>>>> my email-call below lead to the
application of FOSS4G-NA (which we<br>
>>>> decided fast, see my email on 27th
of March) and since we have only<br>
>>>> received one more application:<br>
>>>> John Bryan from OSGeo-LC Oceania
and their regional FOSS4G in 2019<br>
>>>> applied 2.5k US$ support of their
TGP (In 2018 we supported them with<br>
>>>> US$ 2000).<br>
>>>> Our budget looks as follows:<br>
>>>> 25k US $ total budget<br>
>>>> - 15k US $ (global FOSs4G)<br>
>>>> - 2k US $ (FOSS4G NA)<br>
>>>> -----------<br>
>>>> 8k US $ open<br>
>>>> I would propose to fully accept the
application of FOSS4G Oceania.<br>
>>>> That would leave us a rest of 5.5k
US$ - for this we can schedule a 2nd<br>
>>>> call in June.<br>
>>>> Regards, Till<br>
>>>> Am 25.03.19 um 14:43 schrieb Till
Adams:<br>
>>>>> Dear OSGeo community,<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> - sorry for the delay in the
procedure -<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> The board dedicated the OSGeo
conference committee a budget for<br>
>>>>> supporting travel grant
programmes for our global FOSS4G event, but also<br>
>>>>> for supporting regional FOSS4G
events.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> We will share the budget, so
that one major part will support the global<br>
>>>>> FOSS4G event, but there is
still budget, with which we want to support<br>
>>>>> regional events.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> As we have no clue, how many
regional events will apply for support, we,<br>
>>>>> OSGeo's Conference Committee
(CC) decided to first *call for<br>
>>>>> applications*. Depending on the
number of applications, we decide later<br>
>>>>> whether selection is necessary
and how to select events to support. What<br>
>>>>> we do not want to have is a
"first comes, first serves", because that<br>
>>>>> would favour events, that take
place earlier in the year.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Applicants should email the CC
list with the info requested at [1],<br>
>>>>> please send your application
until 19th of April.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> If possible, it would be great
if you would also number the amount of<br>
>>>>> support that you would like to
receive.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> When we see how many
applications we receive, we will then decide<br>
>>>>> whether CC needs to set up a
basic set of requirements for decision.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Till and Steven for OSgeo's CC<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> [1]<br>
>>>>> <a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Travel_Grant_Programme_Cookbook#Applications_to_the_Conference_Committee_for_OSGeo_support"
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>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
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