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<p>Jody,</p>
<p>AFAIK Jeff works from his home office and his phone number is
listed at <a href="https://gatewaygeomatics.com/contact.html">https://gatewaygeomatics.com/contact.html</a></p>
<div class="moz-signature">I question whether obtaining trademark to
FOSS4G is possible after it having been freely used in the general
sense of Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial in a general
sense for many years?<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">However, on foss4g.ca both OSGeo - Ottawa
and OSGeo - Quebec names and logos are featured, and both chapters
have officially called to re-direct, take down the content, or
clarify the fact that the FOSS4G 2020 takes place in Calgary, not
Halifax.<br>
That could be ground enough for .ca to take action?<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">The name/logo of OSGeo itself is also
part of those chapters logo, and that may already be trademarked?</div>
<div class="moz-signature"><br>
Best regards,</div>
<div class="moz-signature"><br>
-Jerome<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/1/19 11:37 PM, Jody Garnett
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I agree it is serous, and I recommend adding
this to the next board meeting (ideally conference chair could
attend?)</div>
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<div dir="auto">But I also want to say as an organization we do
not own the trademark, and we cannot compel action of an
individual. Is this statement you disagree with?</div>
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<div dir="auto">Perhaps this is a good reason to obtain the foss4g
trademark? That would be my advised course of action. Obtain
trademark and ask dot ca to remove this site. <br>
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<div dir="auto">I also think we could figure out where Jeff is
working and phone him. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Any other thoughts on actions (not seriousness)
Mark?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:37
AM Mark Iliffe <<a href="mailto:markiliffe@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">markiliffe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Jody,
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<div>I’m sorry to disagree so strongly, but i see this is
as a severe issue that dramatically needs to be resolved
with haste.</div>
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<div>As a past (co-)chair of a global FOSS4G, i know the
focus is to ensure that funds are raised and the
delegates and sponsors are clear on the offering. Right
now, this isnt the case as that site does look like
Halifax is the host, not Calgary. </div>
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<div>I would strongly urge the Board to take immediate
action to ensure that people are as clear as possible on
what is being offered. The domain is the first step to
this. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There are many reasons why time has been taken to
resolve this - and as someone who spent the first half
of this year quite ill and dropped many balls - I can
understand this...! But, we’re less than a year away, so
let’s work on resolving this as quickly as possible.</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Mark <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 1 Dec 2019, at 22:28, Jody
Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto">We do not maintain copyright on
foss4g, this is a deliberate choice as I
understand it. So I do not think we can ask the
ca domain to intervene.</div>
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<div dir="auto">As for Jeff being unavailable we
like to respect folks volunteer capacity and
ability to contribute when they have time. We have
spent some effort working around his in
availability as a board. </div>
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<div dir="auto">It is worth bringing this up with
the next board meeting. Indeed it may be
appropriate to go about claiming the foss4g
trademark. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 1,
2019 at 11:39 PM Steven Feldman <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto">Jody
<div>,<br>
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<div>Is this a case where the board is the
committee that needs to act?<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">Regards
<div>Steven</div>
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<div><span>+44 (0) 7958 924101</span></div>
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<div><span>Sent from my iPhone</span></div>
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at 20:01, Jody Garnett <<a
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<div dir="ltr">We do not need a
procedure for everything, some
troubles will just need to be
handled if they occur.
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<div>I do not intend to dismiss
your interest, osgeo committees
are empowered to act and remove
individuals who are not welcome.
Indeed we ask that all
committees / projects / events
have a code of conduct.</div>
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<div>In the <a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/images/7/7d/Face_to_Face_Meeting_2019_Bucharest.pdf"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">August
F2F</a> meeting we
discussed establishing a
black list for individuals
who are not welcome at our
events, and a "gray list"
for individuals who we
"wanted to talk with" before
they attended one of our
events again. The kindest
way we could think to handle
this is to ask the
individual to sign a the
code of conduct (so there
could be no
miscommunication with
respect to behaviour).</div>
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<div>Individual committees
can also control their
membership with a motion,
projects can adjust an
individuals commit access,
and so forth. To
specifically answer your
question the board is in
position to update the
charter members list (and
is supposed to do so as a
result of inactivity).</div>
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<div>--</div>
<div>Jody
Garnett</div>
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Sun, 1 Dec 2019 at 20:08, Steven
Feldman <<a
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target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Haven’t
seen a response yet and I note
that as of now the <a
href="http://foss4g.ca"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">foss4g.ca</a> site
is still up. That is
disappointing to say the least.
<div><br>
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<div>I have copied in Karine
Jean who was the co-chair of
the Halifax bid using the
email on her OSGeo listing,
perhaps she can remove the
Halifax site or ask Jeff to do
so or explain why they think
it should remain almost a year
after the decision was made to
award to Calgary not Halifax?</div>
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<div><b>A question for the board</b>:
Do we have any procedure for
revoking Charter Membership in
the event of behaviour that we
consider to be in conflict
with OSGeo principles? I am
not suggesting that this is
the case re Halifax web site
but I think it prompts the
question of what would/should
we do if a CM is considered to
have possibly gone rogue?<br>
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<div>On 29 Nov 2019, at
22:14, Jonathan Neufeld
<<a
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All,<span> </span></div>
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<div style="margin:0in
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apologize for
sending this through
the Conference_Dev
list, however I’ve
been trying to reach
Jeff McKenna for the
past month with no
success. If I am out
of line here, please
let me know.</div>
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<div style="margin:0in
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- I’m following up
again on my request
to take down your
Halifax FOSS4G site
at<span> </span><a
href="https://foss4g.ca/"
style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://foss4g.ca/</a>.<span> </span></div>
<div style="margin:0in
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<div style="margin:0in
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I have previously
mentioned, the
Halifax site is
causing confusion
with some members of
the community.</div>
<div style="margin:0in
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<div style="margin:0in
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the spirit of open
collaboration and
building towards a
successful event, we
are<span> </span><b>requesting
that you take down
the site for
Halifax 2020 which
is making a false
claim of hosting
FOSS4G 2020 and
sowing confusion
amongst potential
participants.</b></div>
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<div style="margin:0in
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