<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Good idea let us check: <a href="https://cira.ca/policy/domain-name/cira-domain-name-dispute-resolution-policy">https://cira.ca/policy/domain-name/cira-domain-name-dispute-resolution-policy</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>1.4 Eligible Complainants. The person initiating a Proceeding (the “Complainant”) must, at the time of submitting a complaint (the “Complaint”), satisfy the Canadian Presence Requirements for Registrants (the “CPR”) in respect of the domain name that is the subject of the Proceeding unless the Complaint relates to a trade-mark registered in the Canadian Intellectual Property Office (“CIPO”) and the Complainant is the owner of the trade-mark.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>It really does look like we need to be the owner of the trademark for OSZGeo be eligible to file a complaint.</div><div><br></div><div>However there is something interring there "Canadian Presence Requirement". Perhaps the local conference organizing committee could qualify as a "Canadian Presence Requirement" explain that the current <a href="http://foss4g.ca">foss4g.ca</a> website represent a failed bid that is interfering with the conference in Calgary?</div><div></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 05:49, Jérôme St-Louis <<a href="mailto:jerome@ecere.com">jerome@ecere.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <p>Jody,</p>
    <p>AFAIK Jeff works from his home office and his phone number is
      listed at <a href="https://gatewaygeomatics.com/contact.html" target="_blank">https://gatewaygeomatics.com/contact.html</a></p>
    <div>I question whether obtaining trademark to
      FOSS4G is possible after it having been freely used in the general
      sense of Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial in a general
      sense for many years?<br>
    </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>However, on <a href="http://foss4g.ca" target="_blank">foss4g.ca</a> both OSGeo - Ottawa
      and OSGeo - Quebec names and logos are featured, and both chapters
      have officially called to re-direct, take down the content, or
      clarify the fact that the FOSS4G 2020 takes place in Calgary, not
      Halifax.<br>
      That could be ground enough for .ca to take action?<br>
      <br>
    </div>
    <div>The name/logo of OSGeo itself is also
      part of those chapters logo, and that may already be trademarked?</div>
    <div><br>
      Best regards,</div>
    <div><br>
      -Jerome<br>
    </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>On 12/1/19 11:37 PM, Jody Garnett
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div>
        <div dir="auto">I agree it is serous, and I recommend adding
          this to the next board meeting (ideally conference chair could
          attend?)</div>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">But I also want to say as an organization we do
        not own the trademark, and we cannot compel action of an
        individual. Is this statement you disagree with?</div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">Perhaps this is a good reason to obtain the foss4g
        trademark? That would be my advised course of action. Obtain
        trademark and ask dot ca to remove this site. <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">I also think we could figure out where Jeff is
        working and phone him. </div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">Any other thoughts on actions (not seriousness)
        Mark?</div>
      <div><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:37
            AM Mark Iliffe <<a href="mailto:markiliffe@gmail.com" target="_blank">markiliffe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="auto">Hi Jody,
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I’m sorry to disagree so strongly, but i see this is
                as a severe issue that dramatically needs to be resolved
                with haste.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>As a past (co-)chair of a global FOSS4G, i know the
                focus is to ensure that funds are raised and the
                delegates and sponsors are clear on the offering. Right
                now, this isnt the case as that site does look like
                Halifax is the host, not Calgary. </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I would strongly urge the Board to take immediate
                action to ensure that people are as clear as possible on
                what is being offered. The domain is the first step to
                this. </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>There are many reasons why time has been taken to
                resolve this - and as someone who spent the first half
                of this year quite ill and dropped many balls - I can
                understand this...! But, we’re less than a year away, so
                let’s work on resolving this as quickly as possible.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Cheers,</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Mark <br>
                <br>
                <div dir="ltr">
                  <blockquote type="cite">On 1 Dec 2019, at 22:28, Jody
                    Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <br>
                  </blockquote>
                </div>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <div dir="ltr">k</div>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">
              <div>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div>
                      <div dir="auto">We do not maintain copyright on
                        foss4g, this is a deliberate choice as I
                        understand it. So I do not think we can ask the
                        ca domain to intervene.</div>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">As for Jeff being unavailable we
                      like to respect folks volunteer capacity and
                      ability to contribute when they have time. We have
                      spent some effort working around his in
                      availability as a board.  </div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">It is worth bringing this up with
                      the next board meeting. Indeed it may be
                      appropriate to go about claiming the foss4g
                      trademark. </div>
                    <div><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 1,
                          2019 at 11:39 PM Steven Feldman <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                          <div dir="auto">Jody
                            <div>,<br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Is this a case where the board is the
                              committee that needs to act?<br>
                              <br>
                              <div dir="ltr">Regards
                                <div>Steven</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div><span><br>
                                  </span></div>
                                <div><span>+44 (0) 7958 924101</span></div>
                                <div>
                                  <div><span>Sent from my iPhone</span></div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                <blockquote type="cite">On 1 Dec 2019,
                                  at 20:01, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <br>
                                </blockquote>
                              </div>
                              <blockquote type="cite">
                                <div dir="ltr"></div>
                              </blockquote>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div dir="auto">
                            <div>
                              <blockquote type="cite">
                                <div dir="ltr">
                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                    <div dir="ltr">We do not need a
                                      procedure for everything, some
                                      troubles will just need to be
                                      handled if they occur.
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>I do not intend to dismiss
                                        your interest, osgeo committees
                                        are empowered to act and remove
                                        individuals who are not welcome.
                                        Indeed we ask that all
                                        committees / projects / events
                                        have a code of conduct.</div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>In the <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/images/7/7d/Face_to_Face_Meeting_2019_Bucharest.pdf" target="_blank">August
                                              F2F</a> meeting we
                                            discussed establishing a
                                            black list for individuals
                                            who are not welcome at our
                                            events, and a "gray list"
                                            for individuals who we
                                            "wanted to talk with" before
                                            they attended one of our
                                            events again. The kindest
                                            way we could think to handle
                                            this is to ask the
                                            individual to sign a the
                                            code of conduct (so there
                                            could be no
                                            miscommunication with
                                            respect to behaviour).</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>Individual committees
                                              can also control their
                                              membership with a motion,
                                              projects can adjust an
                                              individuals commit access,
                                              and so forth. To
                                              specifically answer your
                                              question the board is in
                                              position to update the
                                              charter members list (and
                                              is supposed to do so as a
                                              result of inactivity).</div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div dir="ltr">
                                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                                        <div>--</div>
                                                        <div>Jody
                                                          Garnett</div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <br>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                      Sun, 1 Dec 2019 at 20:08, Steven
                                      Feldman <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
                                      wrote:<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                      <div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Haven’t
                                        seen a response yet and I note
                                        that as of now the <a href="http://foss4g.ca" target="_blank">foss4g.ca</a> site
                                        is still up. That is
                                        disappointing to say the least.
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>I have copied in Karine
                                          Jean who was the co-chair of
                                          the Halifax bid using the
                                          email on her OSGeo listing,
                                          perhaps she can remove the
                                          Halifax site or ask Jeff to do
                                          so or explain why they think
                                          it should remain almost a year
                                          after the decision was made to
                                          award to Calgary not Halifax?</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><b>A question for the board</b>:
                                          Do we have any procedure for
                                          revoking Charter Membership in
                                          the event of behaviour that we
                                          consider to be in conflict
                                          with OSGeo principles? I am
                                          not suggesting that this is
                                          the case re Halifax web site
                                          but I think it prompts the
                                          question of what would/should
                                          we do if a CM is considered to
                                          have possibly gone rogue?<br>
                                          <div>
                                            <div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">
                                              <div dir="auto" style="text-align:start;text-indent:0px;word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;border-spacing:0px">
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                                                    Steven<br>
                                                    <br>
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                                                    places -  <a href="http://mappery.org" target="_blank">mappery.org</a><br>
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                                          <div><br>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <div>On 29 Nov 2019, at
                                                22:14, Jonathan Neufeld
                                                <<a href="mailto:jneufeld@tecterra.com" target="_blank">jneufeld@tecterra.com</a>>
                                                wrote:</div>
                                              <br>
                                              <div>
                                                <div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hi
                                                    All,<span> </span></div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
                                                    apologize for
                                                    sending this through
                                                    the Conference_Dev
                                                    list, however I’ve
                                                    been trying to reach
                                                    Jeff McKenna for the
                                                    past month with no
                                                    success. If I am out
                                                    of line here, please
                                                    let me know.</div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Jeff
                                                    - I’m following up
                                                    again on my request
                                                    to take down your
                                                    Halifax FOSS4G site
                                                    at<span> </span><a href="https://foss4g.ca/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://foss4g.ca/</a>.<span> </span></div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">As
                                                    I have previously
                                                    mentioned, the
                                                    Halifax site is
                                                    causing confusion
                                                    with some members of
                                                    the community.</div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">In
                                                    the spirit of open
                                                    collaboration and
                                                    building towards a
                                                    successful event, we
                                                    are<span> </span><b>requesting
                                                      that you take down
                                                      the site for
                                                      Halifax 2020 which
                                                      is making a false
                                                      claim of hosting
                                                      FOSS4G 2020 and
                                                      sowing confusion
                                                      amongst potential
                                                      participants.</b></div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Regards,</div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Jon<span> </span></div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
                                                  <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">JONATHAN NEUFELD</span></div>
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