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    <p>Michael,</p>
    <p>nope, we try to not have a regional european event, if there is
      the global event in Europe as well ;-)</p>
    <p>@all: The board will make this issue as the major topic on the
      next meeting next monday. I asked in the board if it makes sense
      to have Vasile as representative of CC in this meeting. I think it
      makes sense to calm down a little on this topic and follow the
      suggestion of Jon (Neufeld) ;-)</p>
    <p>Regards, Till<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 05.12.19 um 15:25 schrieb michael
      terner:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Jonathan:</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Europe
          has a population of ~741 million people; Canada has a
          population 37 million, and even with the USA counted the
          combined population is half of Europe (according to quick
          Google searches). And, for FOSS4G's the host country generally
          provides the largest proportion of delegates. It's not just
          distance, it's the number of people who can financially
          support an event. Last, and as pointed out earlier,
          North America has a history, i.e., an longstanding,
          intentional precedent, of not having a N. American only event
          in the same year that the global event occurs in N. America.
          Indeed, many conference goers have budget limitations that
          make it hard to support two events. On the other hand, Europe,
          supported by its large, diverse population, has a long history
          of supporting both a global and regional event in the same
          year.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">+1
          to the notion of Halifax potentially being a venue for the
          2021 N. American event. (That said, I perceive the current
          actions surrounding the Halifax conference URL to be quite
          unnecessary and to be made in bad faith, which has
          the potential to color my own future perceptions of a Halifax
          event. That said, time tends to heal wounds.)</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">MT</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 6:30 AM
          Bart van den Eijnden <<a href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl"
            moz-do-not-send="true">bartvde@osgis.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
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          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">You
          should compare this with when Sevilla and Bucharest were
          competing. Imagine Sevilla saying, we will continue with our
          conference anyway and we will compete with your event in
          Bucharest.<br>
          <br>
          Best regards,<br>
          Bart<br>
          <br>
          Sent from my iPhone<br>
          <br>
          > On 5 Dec 2019, at 12:02, Jonathan Moules <<a
            href="mailto:jonathan-lists@lightpear.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan-lists@lightpear.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          > <br>
          > I'm wondering if someone can explain how this is
          different from having FOSS4GUK and FOSS4G Bucharest within a
          month of each other and geographically *much* closer? I'm not
          sure how being in the same country is such an issue when the
          distances are so huge. I'd use an analogy of two events on the
          opposite sides of a continent but... that's exactly what's
          happening! From a green-sustainability perspective this seems
          like a potential win.<br>
          > <br>
          > I agree with Jerome's point and remember the conversation
          hence my notion and wondering if this is an example of how the
          current system doesn't work? I can see how a year later could
          make more sense but that's for Jeff to decide. Given OSGeo is
          volunteer driven, shouldn't we be encouraging well-meaning
          participation (even if contentious) rather than lambasting it?<br>
          > <br>
          > Cheers,<br>
          > <br>
          > Jonathan<br>
          > <br>
          > <br>
          >> On 2019-12-05 07:45, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:<br>
          >> I find this behaviour totally unacceptable, and I
          hope the OSGeo board considers removing Jeff from charter
          membership and I think they should even consider taking back
          his Sol Katz award. This cannot go without consequences IMHO.<br>
          >> <br>
          >> Clearly he hasn't gotten over the disappointment of
          his proposal not winning, but this is not the way to deal with
          that.<br>
          >> <br>
          >> Best regards,<br>
          >> <br>
          >> Bart<br>
          >> <br>
          >>> On 04-12-2019 23:58, Jérôme St-Louis wrote:<br>
          >>> There were some remarks not long after the bid
          where it was realized how much efforts all LOC teams put in
          these bids, and that it unfortunately ends up wasted while it
          could perhaps be used as proposals for e.g. the regional bids.<br>
          >>> <br>
          >>> I would very much support and encourage Jeff in
          aiming at FOSS4G-NA 2021 for FOSS4G-HFX, if the efforts could
          be recycled towards that possibility!<br>
          >>> <br>
          >>> Best regards,<br>
          >>> <br>
          >>> -Jerome<br>
          >>> <br>
          >>> <br>
          >>> On 12/4/19 5:31 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:<br>
          >>>> No, it's not really.<br>
          >>>> The obvious place to put the energy and
          enthusiasm from a 2nd place<br>
          >>>> international bid is in running the next
          relevant regional conference,<br>
          >>>> FOSS4G-NA 2021 in our case, not in
          counter-programming against the<br>
          >>>> actual event.<br>
          >>>> I'd still like to visit Halifax some time,
          even some time soon.<br>
          >>>> ATB,<br>
          >>>> P.<br>
          >>>> <br>
          >>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 4:51 AM Jonathan
          Moules<br>
          >>>> <<a
            href="mailto:jonathan-lists@lightpear.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan-lists@lightpear.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          >>>>>   > The Calgary LOC is disappointed
          that we now have to compete against<br>
          >>>>> another event in our own country<br>
          >>>>> <br>
          >>>>> While it may be the same "country",
          Calgary and Halifax are over 3700km<br>
          >>>>> apart. Geographically at least that's
          like being disappointed there was<br>
          >>>>> a FOSS4GUK Edinburgh this year a mere
          2420km away from FOSS4G proper<br>
          >>>>> (Bucharest).<br>
          >>>>> <br>
          >>>>> I'd suggest +1 for both going ahead -
          Canada is huge and people<br>
          >>>>> (hopefully) travelling less is good.
          Here's a thought, maybe rather than<br>
          >>>>> competing both groups could create a
          single merged event split across<br>
          >>>>> two venues somehow.<br>
          >>>>> <br>
          >>>>> <br>
          >>>>> On 2019-12-03 14:52, Jonathan Neufeld
          wrote:<br>
          >>>>>> Hi Eli,<br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> I completely agree.<br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> However, it appears that Jeff is
          choosing to go ahead with a FOSS4G in Halifax.<br>
          >>>>>> As per the website this morning he
          says:<br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> "2019-12-03:  Hello again world! 
          We’re excited to announce that the FOSS4G-HFX event will be
          happening in 2020 !  The size and scope may be changed, but
          the true passion for FOSS4G and sharing will not.  Watch this
          space for more updates.  Thank you for all of the support!"<br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> Another pop-up box indicates that<br>
          >>>>>> "2019-12-02: The venue for FOSS4G-HFX
          2020 may actually be the back of a pub, and a donated
          university lab, but the FOSS4G spirit will exist ha! The
          original proposed venue is listed here, we will update this
          page when we have more news on venues. Thank you for support!"<br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> The Calgary LOC is disappointed that
          we now have to compete against another event in our own
          country, especially one being presented by an OSGeo Charter
          Member and former OSGeo board member. We will push forward and
          continue building a strong event for August, and we remain
          confident that 2020 will be the biggest and best FOSS4G in the
          history of excellent global events.<br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> Regards,<br>
          >>>>>> Jon<br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
          >>>>>> From: Eli Adam <<a
            href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>><br>
          >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 7:17
          AM<br>
          >>>>>> To: Karine Jean <<a
            href="mailto:karine@geomatiqc.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">karine@geomatiqc.com</a>><br>
          >>>>>> Cc: Jonathan Neufeld <<a
            href="mailto:jneufeld@tecterra.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jneufeld@tecterra.com</a>>; <a
            href="mailto:info@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">info@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>; <a
            href="mailto:jmckenna@osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jmckenna@osgeo.org</a>; Conference
          Dev <<a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>;
          osgeo-board List <<a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>>;
          <a href="mailto:chair@foss4g.ca" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">chair@foss4g.ca</a>; <a
            href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a><br>
          >>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G 2020
          - Halifax site causing confusion<br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> Hi all,<br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> I hope that we hear from Jeff soon
          and are able to resolve this without resorting to a TLD
          authority.  OSGeo is a small community and we should be able
          to resolve things internally.  I agree that it should be
          addressed soon.<br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> Best regards, Eli<br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 10:27 AM
          Karine Jean <<a href="mailto:karine@geomatiqc.com"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">karine@geomatiqc.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          >>>>>>> Hi All,<br>
          >>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay before
          answering. As you may know, I do not have the access to shut
          down the <a href="http://foss4g.ca" rel="noreferrer"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">foss4g.ca</a>
          website. Jeff is the only owner of this URL and website. I
          agree that the <a href="http://foss4g.ca" rel="noreferrer"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">foss4g.ca</a> site in
          its current form is very misleading but I wanted to have more
          information before responding.<br>
          >>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>> Jon wrote to me last week about
          the situation. So, I wrote to Jeff to ask him if he could do
          anything about it.<br>
          >>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>> Jeff wrote back to me and we had
          a talk on the phone about the situation this morning. I tried
          to convince him to shut down the site but as I wrote I have no
          control on his decision so I will report directly to the board
          off-list for the next steps.<br>
          >>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>> Thank you for your patience with
          this and I wish you all a great event in Calgary in 2020.<br>
          >>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>> Regards,<br>
          >>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>> Karine<br>
          >>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>> Le lun. 2 déc. 2019 à 10:28,
          Jonathan Neufeld <<a href="mailto:jneufeld@tecterra.com"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jneufeld@tecterra.com</a>>
          a écrit :<br>
          >>>>>>>> Hi All,<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Thank you for all of the
          support on this issue, as well as the potential avenues to
          address it.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> I would like to note that I
          also reached out to Karine and she was gracious and helpful.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> We will explore the potential
          to have CIRA (the .ca registrar) remove the domain, hopefully
          it is a quick and efficient process.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> I would strongly support
          OSGeo in registering the FOSS4G brand for international
          trademark protection. FOSS4G has grown into a large conference
          with attendance consistently at or above the 1,000 person mark
          and this is something valuable worth protecting so that it can
          confidently grow into the future.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Regards,<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Jon<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> From: Conference_dev <<a
            href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
          On<br>
          >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Jody Garnett<br>
          >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 1,
          2019 10:11 PM<br>
          >>>>>>>> To: Jérôme St-Louis <<a
            href="mailto:jerome@ecere.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jerome@ecere.com</a>><br>
          >>>>>>>> Cc: <a
            href="mailto:info@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">info@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>; <a
            href="mailto:jmckenna@osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jmckenna@osgeo.org</a>; Conference
          Dev<br>
          >>>>>>>> <<a
            href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>;
          <a href="mailto:karine@geomatiqc.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">karine@geomatiqc.com</a>; osgeo-board<br>
          >>>>>>>> List <<a
            href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>>; <a
            href="mailto:chair@foss4g.ca" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">chair@foss4g.ca</a><br>
          >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf]
          FOSS4G 2020 - Halifax site causing<br>
          >>>>>>>> confusion<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Good idea let us check:<br>
          >>>>>>>> <a
href="https://cira.ca/policy/domain-name/cira-domain-name-dispute-resolutio"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://cira.ca/policy/domain-name/cira-domain-name-dispute-resolutio</a>
          <br>
          >>>>>>>> n-policy<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> 1.4 Eligible Complainants.
          The person initiating a Proceeding (the “Complainant”) must,
          at the time of submitting a complaint (the “Complaint”),
          satisfy the Canadian Presence Requirements for Registrants
          (the “CPR”) in respect of the domain name that is the subject
          of the Proceeding unless the Complaint relates to a trade-mark
          registered in the Canadian Intellectual Property Office
          (“CIPO”) and the Complainant is the owner of the trade-mark.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> It really does look like we
          need to be the owner of the trademark for OSZGeo be eligible
          to file a complaint.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> However there is something
          interring there "Canadian Presence Requirement". Perhaps the
          local conference organizing committee could qualify as a
          "Canadian Presence Requirement" explain that the current <a
            href="http://foss4g.ca" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">foss4g.ca</a> website represent a
          failed bid that is interfering with the conference in Calgary?<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> -- <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Jody Garnett<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 05:49,
          Jérôme St-Louis <<a href="mailto:jerome@ecere.com"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jerome@ecere.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Jody,<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> AFAIK Jeff works from his
          home office and his phone number is listed<br>
          >>>>>>>> at <a
            href="https://gatewaygeomatics.com/contact.html"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gatewaygeomatics.com/contact.html</a><br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> I question whether obtaining
          trademark to FOSS4G is possible after it having been freely
          used in the general sense of Free and Open Source Software for
          Geospatial in a general sense for many years?<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> However, on <a
            href="http://foss4g.ca" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">foss4g.ca</a> both OSGeo - Ottawa and
          OSGeo - Quebec names and logos are featured, and both chapters
          have officially called to re-direct, take down the content, or
          clarify the fact that the FOSS4G 2020 takes place in Calgary,
          not Halifax.<br>
          >>>>>>>> That could be ground enough
          for .ca to take action?<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> The name/logo of OSGeo itself
          is also part of those chapters logo, and that may already be
          trademarked?<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Best regards,<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> -Jerome<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> On 12/1/19 11:37 PM, Jody
          Garnett wrote:<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> I agree it is serous, and I
          recommend adding this to the next board<br>
          >>>>>>>> meeting (ideally conference
          chair could attend?)<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> But I also want to say as an
          organization we do not own the trademark, and we cannot compel
          action of an individual. Is this statement you disagree with?<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Perhaps this is a good reason
          to obtain the foss4g trademark? That would be my advised
          course of action. Obtain trademark and ask dot ca to remove
          this site.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> I also think we could figure
          out where Jeff is working and phone him.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Any other thoughts on actions
          (not seriousness) Mark?<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:37
          AM Mark Iliffe <<a href="mailto:markiliffe@gmail.com"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">markiliffe@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Hi Jody,<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> I’m sorry to disagree so
          strongly, but i see this is as a severe issue that
          dramatically needs to be resolved with haste.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> As a past (co-)chair of a
          global FOSS4G, i know the focus is to ensure that funds are
          raised and the delegates and sponsors are clear on the
          offering. Right now, this isnt the case as that site does look
          like Halifax is the host, not Calgary.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> I would strongly urge the
          Board to take immediate action to ensure that people are as
          clear as possible on what is being offered. The domain is the
          first step to this.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> There are many reasons why
          time has been taken to resolve this - and as someone who spent
          the first half of this year quite ill and dropped many balls -
          I can understand this...! But, we’re less than a year away, so
          let’s work on resolving this as quickly as possible.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Cheers,<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Mark<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2019, at 22:28, Jody
          Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> k<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> We do not maintain copyright
          on foss4g, this is a deliberate choice as I understand it. So
          I do not think we can ask the ca domain to intervene.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> As for Jeff being unavailable
          we like to respect folks volunteer capacity and ability to
          contribute when they have time. We have spent some effort
          working around his in availability as a board.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> It is worth bringing this up
          with the next board meeting. Indeed it may be appropriate to
          go about claiming the foss4g trademark.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 11:39
          PM Steven Feldman <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Jody<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> ,<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Is this a case where the
          board is the committee that needs to act?<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Regards<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Steven<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> +44 (0) 7958 924101<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2019, at 20:01, Jody
          Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> We do not need a procedure
          for everything, some troubles will just need to be handled if
          they occur.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> I do not intend to dismiss
          your interest, osgeo committees are empowered to act and
          remove individuals who are not welcome. Indeed we ask that all
          committees / projects / events have a code of conduct.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> In the August F2F meeting we
          discussed establishing a black list for individuals who are
          not welcome at our events, and a "gray list" for individuals
          who we "wanted to talk with" before they attended one of our
          events again. The kindest way we could think to handle this is
          to ask the individual to sign a the code of conduct (so there
          could be no miscommunication with respect to behaviour).<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Individual committees can
          also control their membership with a motion, projects can
          adjust an individuals commit access, and so forth. To
          specifically answer your question the board is in position to
          update the charter members list (and is supposed to do so as a
          result of inactivity).<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> -- <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Jody Garnett<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 at 20:08,
          Steven Feldman <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Haven’t seen a response yet
          and I note that as of now the <a href="http://foss4g.ca"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">foss4g.ca</a>
          site is still up. That is disappointing to say the least.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> I have copied in Karine Jean
          who was the co-chair of the Halifax bid using the email on her
          OSGeo listing, perhaps she can remove the Halifax site or ask
          Jeff to do so or explain why they think it should remain
          almost a year after the decision was made to award to Calgary
          not Halifax?<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> A question for the board: Do
          we have any procedure for revoking Charter Membership in the
          event of behaviour that we consider to be in conflict with
          OSGeo principles? I am not suggesting that this is the case re
          Halifax web site but I think it prompts the question of what
          would/should we do if a CM is considered to have possibly gone
          rogue?<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> ______<br>
          >>>>>>>> Steven<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Unusual maps in strange
          places -  <a href="http://mappery.org" rel="noreferrer"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mappery.org</a><br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Subscribe to my weekly “Maps
          in the Wild” newsletter<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> On 29 Nov 2019, at 22:14,
          Jonathan Neufeld <<a href="mailto:jneufeld@tecterra.com"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jneufeld@tecterra.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Hi All,<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> I apologize for sending this
          through the Conference_Dev list, however I’ve been trying to
          reach Jeff McKenna for the past month with no success. If I am
          out of line here, please let me know.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Jeff - I’m following up again
          on my request to take down your Halifax FOSS4G site at <a
            href="https://foss4g.ca/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://foss4g.ca/</a>.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> As I have previously
          mentioned, the Halifax site is causing confusion with some
          members of the community.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> In the spirit of open
          collaboration and building towards a successful event, we are
          requesting that you take down the site for Halifax 2020 which
          is making a false claim of hosting FOSS4G 2020 and sowing
          confusion amongst potential participants.<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Regards,<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Jon<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> JONATHAN NEUFELD<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> CO-CHAIR<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> FOSS4G 2020 CALGARY<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <a
            href="http://2020.foss4g.org/" rel="noreferrer"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://2020.foss4g.org/</a><br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          >>>>>>>> Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          >>>>>>>> <a
            href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >>>>>>>> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          >>>>>>>> Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          >>>>>>>> <a
            href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >>>>>>>> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> -- <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> -- <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Jody Garnett<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          >>>>>>>> Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          >>>>>>>> <a
            href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >>>>>>>> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> -- <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> -- <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Jody Garnett<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <a
            href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >>>>>>>> <br>
          >>>>>>>> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
          >>>>>>>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          >>>>>>> Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          >>>>>>> <a
            href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >>>>>>> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
          >>>>>>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          >>>>>> Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          >>>>>> <a
            href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >>>>>> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
          >>>>> <br>
          >>>>>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          >>>>> Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          >>>>> <a
            href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >>>>> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
          >>>>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          >>>> Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          >>>> <a
            href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >>>> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
          >>> _______________________________________________<br>
          >>> Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          >>> <a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >>> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
          >> _______________________________________________<br>
          >> Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          >> <a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
          > <br>
          > <br>
          > _______________________________________________<br>
          > Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          > <a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          > <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><br>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          Conference_dev mailing list<br>
          <a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
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            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev"
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