<div><div dir="auto">If we’re revising, stepped amounts make more sense to me, 50/50 split of the first $30,000, 90 OSGeo / 10 LOC there after. OSGeo already has a host of great programs and ways to spend the money. It also is the reason that FOSS4G happens. (It also is how OSGeo exists). </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m all in favor of LOCs getting some portion of the proceeds (that’s why I like an aggressive initial percent), but think of what is a good amount for a LOC to tuck away for the future and then think of typical returns. </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards, Eli</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 4:20 AM Steven Feldman <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Till<div><br></div><div>IMO: The RfP is published each year, it sets out OSGeo’s expectations for LOCs to bid. I think it is binding but it would do no harm to strengthen that with some more formal language when we revise the RfP document later this year.</div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><br><div>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>Hi Steven,</p><p>thanks, I missed to read the RfP carefully ;-) <br>
</p><p>Is it enough to have this only in the RfP docs?</p><p>Till<br>
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<div>Am 02.01.20 um 12:39 schrieb Steven
Feldman:<br>
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In the RfP document it says (my italics):
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distribution of surplus</span>
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all FOSS4G events will be budgeted
and operated to deliver a surplus
over costs. <i>Part of the
surplus will be donated to OSGeo.</i></span></p>
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<div><p><span style="font-weight:700;font-style:normal">Seed
Funding</span></p><p>OSGeo can offer seed funding (an
advance to cover start-up expenses and
deposits before revenues are received) and
an additional guarantee to cover losses
(up to an agreed limit) in the event of
unexpected events (subject to approval of
budgets and regular financial updates to
an OSGeo board representative).</p><p>If OSGeo provides seed funding
and guarantees, it is expected that in the
region of 85% of any surplus generated
will be donated to OSGeo (a lower
percentage will be considered for events
hosted in Lower or Middle Income
economies). OSGeo will provide a financial
supervisor who must be consulted on all
major financial decisions. For more
information see <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Finances" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Finances</a></p><p><b><i>If a LOC
does not require seed funding or
guarantees from OSGeo, they will be
expected to donate at least 50% of the
surplus after costs to OSGeo.</i></b></p><p><span style="font-weight:700;font-style:normal">Travel
Grant</span></p><p>OSGeo will provide a grant of
$10,000 minimum towards a Travel Grant
Programme (see <span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"><a href="https://www.osgeo.org/initiatives/foss4g-travel-grant-program/" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/initiatives/foss4g-travel-grant-program/</a></span><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"> </span>), the LOC are
expected to raise at least an equivalent
amount of funding through sponsorship,
donations at registration or other means.</p><p><span style="font-weight:700;font-style:normal">Video</span></p><p>OSGeo may provide loan funding
towards the cost of recording the
conference proceedings. If there is
surplus from the conference, OSGeo
requires this funding to be repaid in full
to OSGeo before any calculation and
distribution of the conference surplus."</p>
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<div>On 2 Jan 2020, at 09:05,
Till Adams <<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de" target="_blank">till.adams@fossgis.de</a>>
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<div>Dear conference committee,<br>
<br>
you know, that surplus of FOSS4G's is
one of the major source of income<br>
of OSGeo. The upcoming two events are
good examples, that we need a<br>
binding and general rule about "what
happens with a potential surplus of<br>
a FOSS4G": Calgary did not claim for
seed money and explained to<br>
transfer back "at least 50%", Buenes
Aires recently requested for seed<br>
money and mentioned a transfer back of
30% in their bid (Steven asked<br>
about that during the RfP).<br>
<br>
On our last board meeting, we discussed
the request from Buenes Aires<br>
regarding seed money. I know, there is a
general rule, that says, that<br>
if a LOC of a FOSS4G requests for seed
money, that we as an organisation<br>
expect, that at least 85% of the
potential surplus goes back to OSGeo.<br>
This rule is AFAIK written in the
"FOSS4G cookbook" but in the WIKI<br>
still marked as "draft" [1].<br>
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So, in my eyes, we need to approve this
rule and make it binding for<br>
future bids. Also, there is no rule
about the surplus going back to<br>
OSGeo, if teams do *not* request for
seed money. I think we should need<br>
to define a rule here also.<br>
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Any thoughts?<br>
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Till<br>
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[1] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=FOSS4G_Handbook#Finances" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=FOSS4G_Handbook#Finances</a><br>
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