<div dir="ltr">+1 to Peter<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 12:50, Peter Batty <<a href="mailto:peter@ebatty.com">peter@ebatty.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I think there is merit in Steven's suggestion of opening the call to both NA and EU. I think there is a possibility we may get fewer proposals than usual as potential organizers may see more risks than there were in pre-Covid days, and opening it to both would mitigate this to some degree. I don't see much downside to doing this.<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div> Peter. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 9:39 AM <a href="mailto:adams@osgeo.org" target="_blank">adams@osgeo.org</a> <<a href="mailto:adams@osgeo.org" target="_blank">adams@osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear CC,<br>
<br>
looks like we got stuck here somehow. Maybe we as CC should have a clear<br>
decision first on whether we tzhink that we should have<br>
<br>
22 as a<br>
<br>
- "NA" year<br>
- "EU" year<br>
- open the call for both<br>
<br>
before we involve the board. I wil lsend an email to the board and keep<br>
them updated in our discussion.<br>
<br>
Till<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 16.11.20 um 15:15 schrieb Mark Iliffe:<br>
> In the interest of time, happy to defer and strongly support the broader<br>
> Conference Committee. To clarify, I too like the idea of remaining in<br>
> cycle, but wish for the potential economic impact to be considered a bit<br>
> more. I'd propose the co-chairs and/or Till summarises the pertinent<br>
> points for the board's decision. Regardless of what happens, I strongly<br>
> urge the OSGeo to discuss and note the decision for the record. <br>
> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> <br>
> Mark<br>
> <br>
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 06:07, Till Adams <<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de" target="_blank">till.adams@fossgis.de</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de" target="_blank">till.adams@fossgis.de</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi,<br>
> <br>
> I agree with Eli. I see the point, that of course the turn for NA might<br>
> be long - on the other side, I know at least about one team from europe,<br>
> that already prepare their bid for 2022 since a year now.<br>
> <br>
> Nevertheless I like the idea of keeping our cycle, as the above might<br>
> also be the case for other potential bidders.<br>
> <br>
> If we discuss this or vote on that point, I would suggest to hurry up,<br>
> as we are already little late with our call or 2022.<br>
> <br>
> Regards, Till<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Am 13.11.20 um 20:32 schrieb Eli Adam:<br>
> > Skipping a year means that it will be longer to return to *some*<br>
> > region. Sticking with the existing rotation keeps things going the<br>
> > same and returns the rotation back to "normal" soonest.<br>
> ><br>
> > I slightly favor keeping 22 a Europe year, 23 a NA year, and 24 an<br>
> > Other Regions year. I'm open to other rotations too, particularly if<br>
> > someone has a good argument for it or strong feelings. If finances<br>
> > require, skipping Other Regions in 24 would make the most sense but we<br>
> > are a long ways away from that decision.<br>
> ><br>
> > Do we want to discuss further? Vote by email? Plan a meeting to<br>
> > discuss and decide? Defer to Vasile & Msilikale as co-chairs? Just<br>
> > let things continue on the same path and without having taken action<br>
> > otherwise, the same rotation continues?<br>
> ><br>
> > Best regards, Eli<br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 7:08 AM Steven Feldman<br>
> <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank">shfeldman@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >> I can see benefit in making 22 a North America year, should we<br>
> consider opening 22 to both Europe and NA and seeing which offers<br>
> the best proposal?<br>
> >> ______<br>
> >> Steven<br>
> >><br>
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> >> On 12 Nov 2020, at 19:35, Peter Batty <<a href="mailto:peter@ebatty.com" target="_blank">peter@ebatty.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter@ebatty.com" target="_blank">peter@ebatty.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Hi all,<br>
> >><br>
> >> I decided to email Jon Neufeld directly, just in case he wasn't<br>
> following the mailing list closely these days.<br>
> >><br>
> >> He replied and thanked me for checking in with him, but said that<br>
> they would pass on the possibility of hosting in Calgary in 2022. He<br>
> said that in addition to the team drifting apart, he was concerned<br>
> that traditional conferences may well still be struggling in 2022.<br>
> >><br>
> >> So anyway, we can take the Calgary option off the table. I still<br>
> have a slight leaning towards doing 2022 in North America, but don't<br>
> have overly strong opinions on it. I just wanted to make sure the<br>
> question had been discussed.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Cheers,<br>
> >> Peter.<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 1:55 AM Till Adams <<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de" target="_blank">till.adams@fossgis.de</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de" target="_blank">till.adams@fossgis.de</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >>> Dear Peter,<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> as far as I understood, we discussed this also during a meeting<br>
> we had with CC and the board some weeks ago. I think we agreed on<br>
> keep our cycle "as is", which means, that 2021 will be held in Europe.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> The Calgary team denied to re-organize the event in 2022 as they<br>
> feared not to keep their team together, but maybe I remember wrong.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> I re-put this topic also on the agenda of our board meeting we<br>
> will have on friday.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Till<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Am 10.11.20 um 17:44 schrieb Peter Batty:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Hi all, just looking back on the email threads, in the<br>
> conversation around the cancellation of the Calgary event, there<br>
> were some suggestions that the 2022 event should be held in North<br>
> America, so we don't go so long without having an event there, and<br>
> also that we should offer the right of first refusal to the Calgary<br>
> team, so if they wanted to run the 2022 event we could elect to<br>
> award it to them without a competitive RFP (probably subject to<br>
> submitting some updated plans for review). At the time the Calgary<br>
> team weren't sure if they would want to do it again, understandably<br>
> due to the situation, but they didn't rule it out. I don't know if I<br>
> missed any subsequent discussion on this front.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Personally I would support first offering the Calgary team the<br>
> right of first refusal on the 2022 event. If they decide they don't<br>
> want to do it, then we need to decide whether the location for 2022<br>
> should be North America (which means we would go 5 years between NA<br>
> events, 4 years between European events) or Europe (6 years between<br>
> NA events, 3 years between European events).<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Cheers,<br>
> >>> Peter.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 8:20 AM Till Adams<br>
> <<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de" target="_blank">till.adams@fossgis.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de" target="_blank">till.adams@fossgis.de</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >>>> Hi Vasile,<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> I added just two comments. In general I woulde also suggest to<br>
> have a<br>
> >>>> WIKI page with just the most important infos about the bidding<br>
> process,<br>
> >>>> like we had in the past [1]. This in order to keep the process<br>
> open and<br>
> >>>> transparent.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Till<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> [1] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2021_Bid_Process" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2021_Bid_Process</a><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Am 09.11.20 um 23:31 schrieb Vasile Craciunescu:<br>
> >>>>> Dear CC members,<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> It's true, these days the world is holding its breath waiting<br>
> for a<br>
> >>>>> solution to the current COVID-19 pandemic. It's also true that the<br>
> >>>>> present offers no certainties for the near future (the reason<br>
> we kept<br>
> >>>>> postponing this message). However, it's time to make some<br>
> decisions<br>
> >>>>> regarding FOSS4G2022. Therefore, we kindly ask your opinion on<br>
> the new<br>
> >>>>> proposed draft for the FOSS4G2022 bid. Please take a look at the<br>
> >>>>> document and add your comments/suggestions. The important<br>
> >>>>> additions/changes from the last document editions are<br>
> highlighted in orange.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>><br>
> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P3OJpJeC6LrWR7lpboBEHVdR7tihsid7a6wDIZOixZA/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P3OJpJeC6LrWR7lpboBEHVdR7tihsid7a6wDIZOixZA/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Warm regards,<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Vasile & Msilikale - with kind support from Steven.<br>
> >>>>> CC Co-chairs<br>
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