<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Some thoughts on a way forward based on my experience of running global and local events and participating in almost a decade of conference committees:<div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><ul class="MailOutline"><li class="">A local team has to have ownership of their event even if OSGeo provides admin and/or financial support. It is a positive of our community that every global FOSS4G finds its own way and character.</li><ul class=""><li class="">Some systems should be mandated for continuity (eg the mailing database, the call for papers system and possibly others), OSGeo should maintain and fund these systems.</li><li class="">Other tools used by the LOC should be selected by the local group</li></ul><li class="">The financial structures for running a FOSS4G are unclear and potentially chaotic and unsustainable. I am not sure why any group of volunteers would accept the financial risks of contracting with venues, PCO’s, caterers etc. </li><ul class=""><li class=""><b class="">OSGeo has to accept full financial and legal responsibility for its global event </b>and in return needs to have close to full financial control and to receive most of the surplus (suggest 10% of the surplus should go to the local community).</li><li class="">All contracts should be between OSGeo and the provider.</li><li class="">To ensure financial control and prudent decision making OSGeo needs a representative on the LOC who controls the cheque book and has to be consulted on any material financial decisions (i.e. signing of contracts and purchase orders)</li></ul><li class="">In the past we considered employing someone to act as a resource ce for global events, not quite a PCO but an events person with some experience of our community. Perhaps we should consider recruiting a <b class="">part time events person</b> to support our annual event (and possibly other regional events) responsibilities could include:</li><ul class=""><li class="">Finances and financial reporting to the board (or conference committee?). This person would be OSGeo’s representative on the LOC</li><li class="">Negotiation of contracts with venues and other contractors</li><li class="">Support to the LOC as needed to alleviate the load on volunteers</li><li class="">Running OSGeo conference systems (as above)</li><li class="">Assisting conference committee in the selection of the annual global event</li><li class="">Maintaining an events calendar for any regional or local events using the FOSS4G brand to ensure that conflicts are avoided</li><li class="">Maintaining the community memory of best practice so that we do not reinvent the wheel unnecessarily.</li><li class="">Other tba</li><li class="">A London based full time person would cost ca $50,000 so I imagine we could recruit a part time person for $30-40,000</li></ul></ul><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would hope that having a clear financial structure where OSGeo owns its conference and partners with a local group to stage the event plus provides a part time resource with events (and FOSS4G) experience would attract more interest form local communities.</div><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 18 Feb 2022, at 14:03, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) <<a href="mailto:bob.basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us" class="">bob.basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">All,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Not sure if these comments are helping all that much based on the focus so far, but . . . :c)<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I’ve pondered these type of questions in the past, and I think that for the community to be successful at this, that the local organization, OSGeo chapters, etc. need to be better supported for setting up a local event. There needs to be a bit more formalization of OSGeo at the local level in order for the local hosting interest to materialize. There needs to be a centralized component of planning to all events, as well as a local component for fielding venues and reservations of event aspects. I might even go so far as to say that an event should require, at a minimum, a local chapter(s) sponsor and involvement, even if it/they only exist temporarily during the event.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">By splitting the duties this way, the centralized side of the planning has better options for leveraging experiences from past events and passing that experience on to the local organizers and the local organizations get a better step up, or quick start to planning an event. I n the near term, I can see this limiting options some, but it might also be thought of as a good way to start and stabilize local chapters of OSGeo over the long run.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Bobb<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Conference_dev <<a href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> on behalf of "<a href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>" <<a href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>><br class=""><b class="">Reply-To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>" <<a href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 11:02 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [OSGeo-Conf] [OSGeo-Discuss] Poll: Change FOSS4G structure to have some continuity of organization and management<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellpadding="0" style="margin-left: 0.5in; background-color: rgb(226, 247, 0); border: 1pt solid black;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td style="border: none; padding: 0.75pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(255, 51, 51);" class="">Think Before You Click:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></strong><span style="" class="">This email originated<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">outside<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></strong>our organization.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hello all,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">It has been two weeks on this poll and we have heard from 7 of 19 voting members or 37%. 63% have not responded. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Till, Peter, David B, Maria B, Vasile, David F, Gavin, Claude, Venkatesh, Paul, Msilikale, and Mark have not responded (or I missed it). Do any of you have an opinion on this matter? <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Some of the best ideas and contributions to the conference committee have come from non-voting members and that remains a possibility. In my mind Jeroen has provided valuable insight on conferences for ten years or more. I greatly value that. The focus on voting members is to try to get responses and that the conference committee has had difficulty operating and is sometimes unwieldy. If the voting members are unable to operate (or even decide if they want to try operating on something), then we don't have to waste time on it. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Best regards, Eli<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:25 PM Bruce Bannerman via Discuss <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Well said Sanghee.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">As a former member of the LOC for FOSS4G-2009 I agree with the local community development argument, though in our case it led to a lot of burn-out.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">There is also the practicality of finding a conference organiser that can operate effectively anywhere in the world.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Should the alternate approach go through, significant thought also needs to go into the procurement process to avoid the very real potential for corruption.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Kind regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Bruce<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On 9 Feb 2022, at 01:28,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: "Malgun Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">신상희</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>via Discuss <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi all, <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I prefer option 1. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If this poll was asked just after FOSS4G Seoul 2015, I would have selected option 2 without any hesitations. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">However I now realize that I, LOC members, and local community had learned a lot by going through the difficulties of preparing the event altogether. That experience was very unique, invaluable and is now one of driving force of vibrant activity of OSGeo Korean chapter. Community driven FOSS4G with help from PCO is not so bad model, I think. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Kind regards, <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div id="m_-3288858341758132725m_771899635936014201gmail-m_-7570965796187456226signature_old" class=""><div id="m_-3288858341758132725m_771899635936014201gmail-m_-7570965796187456226xaa51bdecbcf945b" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Malgun Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">신상희</span><br class="">---<br class="">Shin, Sanghee<br class="">Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company<br class=""><a href="http://www.gaia3d.com/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.gaia3d.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">------ Original Message ------<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From: "michael terner" <<a href="mailto:ternergeo@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ternergeo@gmail.com</a>><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">To: "Steven Feldman" <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Cc: "OSGeo-Conf" <<a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>; "OSGeo Discussions" <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>>; "Massimiliano Cannata" <<a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>>; "Eli Adam" <<a href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Sent: 2022-02-06<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: "Malgun Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">오전</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>6:09:42<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Poll: Change FOSS4G structure to have some continuity of organization and management<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div id="m_-3288858341758132725m_771899635936014201gmail-m_-7570965796187456226x4202c094b74141a" class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">+2<span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for considering change</span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">There's definitely room to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">consider</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>continual improvements for the conference process, as the world, and our community has evolved considerably over the last few years.<span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>No easy solutions, but lots to think about.</span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Eli starting this thread with an "informal poll" makes complete sense. The Committee is simply doing it's job of helping the Board to manage and promote the conference activity. We don't get to make decisions by ourselves, but generating ideas is certainly part of the mandate. And, as others have said, if the board disagrees with a proposal/idea, they do not have to approve it.</span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">MT</span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 6:02 AM Steven Feldman <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">+2 from me<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Everyone is welcome to participate in the conversation about changes to the organisation of FOSS4G, then the Conference Ctee should vote and make a recommendation (or recommendations) to the Board and the Board should decide.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Our organisational model is that the charter members elect the board and the board then makes decisions on their behalf, if CM’s don’t agree with board decisions they have the option to vote in a new board, we do not have a direct voting or referendum system where CM’s are consulted on individual decisions.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica;" class="">______<br class="">Steven<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Unusual maps in strange places - <a href="http://mappery.org/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mappery.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Subscribe to my weekly “<a href="http://eepurl.com/dKStT-/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Maps in the Wild</a>” newsletter<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On 4 Feb 2022, at 09:01, Jeroen Ticheler <<a href="mailto:jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div name="messageBodySection" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Hi Maxi,<br class="">Thanks! I completely agree with those type of changes indeed. It makes sense we have a list of scenario’s forward and have a vote on that by the community. <br class=""><br class="">For what the membership of the conference committee is concerned, I left simply because of the supposed/imposed barrier of not having been a conference chair, although I didn’t agree with that at all. Didn’t feel like fighting over it though. It would be better to make membership voluntary just like other committees. Possibly approved by the board or charter members. <br class=""><br class="">Cheers,<br class="">Jeroen<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div name="messageSignatureSection" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin-left: 0.5in; background-color: rgb(239, 239, 239);"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td style="padding: 15pt;" class=""><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left"><tbody class=""><tr style="height: 18.75pt;" class=""><td style="padding: 0in; height: 18.75pt;" class=""></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="250" valign="top" style="width: 187.5pt; padding: 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.geocat.net/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="text-decoration: none;" class=""><b class="">Error! Filename not specified.</b></span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left"><tbody class=""><tr style="height: 18.75pt;" class=""><td style="padding: 0in; height: 18.75pt;" class=""></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="250" valign="top" style="width: 187.5pt; padding: 0in;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Jeroen Ticheler<br class="">Mobile: +31681286572<br class="">E-mail: <a href="mailto:jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net</a><br class=""><a href="https://www.geocat.net/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.geocat.net</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left"><tbody class=""><tr style="height: 18.75pt;" class=""><td style="padding: 0in; height: 18.75pt;" class=""></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="250" valign="top" style="width: 187.5pt; padding: 0in;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Veenderweg 13<br class="">6721 WD Bennekom<br class="">The Netherlands<br class="">Tel: +31318416664<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div name="messageReplySection" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">On 4 Feb 2022, 09:02 +0100, Massimiliano Cannata <<a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>>, wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="margin: 3.75pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Dear Jeroen,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Thanks for your considerations.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">I wasn't proposing to extend the evaluation of proposals to the whole community. I understand a dedicated committee should do this (even though I believe a part of the evaluation of a proposal could be assigned by votes of the community, maybe 10%?).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">My point is that decisions of changing the organisation of the FOSS4G cannot be done without the involvement of the whole community. It's not about changing the evaluation process, it's about deciding for example to have a fixed location, to completely leave it to an external company, to pay the committee members to do it, to have it online or in person, to cancel the global and keep only to local conference...<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Another point is that so far there's the assumption that only organizer of previous FOSS4G have the competence to understand technical matters. That's quite aleatory and in no other committee there is such an entry barrier... If you didn't play in NBA you cannot be a good coach? Can a government self-elect his members? What about innovation, new ideas and other experiences, or we're just close in our FOSS4G past events experience... Because only if you run a global conference you have the competence...<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Sorry to be long, and this is not personal at all, I just like being inclusive and have empowered participatory approach..<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">All the best,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Maxi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Il gio 3 feb 2022, 17:04 Jeroen Ticheler <<a href="mailto:jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net</a>> ha scritto:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div name="messageBodySection" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Hi Maxi,<br class="">Thanks for sharing your view on this. Although I sympathize with the idea of a whole community having a say in how conference locations is selected and organized, I’m not in favor of the process you propose. Reading LOI’s and full proposals takes a lot of time and voting a lot of thought and discussion. It really helps to have previous conference organizers on the committee as well. At the same time I also think the committee should be open to other members (I used to be a member long time ago while I never chaired a conference, and I don’t think that mattered honestly). <br class="">Concluding, I think selecting a conference / proposal should be taken care of by the committee, not by all charter members or the whole community. Maybe the board or the charter members should decide for an elected committee similar to what we already do with the board elections. <br class="">Cheers,<br class="">Jeroen<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div name="messageSignatureSection" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin-left: 0.5in; background-color: rgb(239, 239, 239);"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td style="padding: 15pt;" class=""><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left"><tbody class=""><tr style="height: 18.75pt;" class=""><td style="padding: 0in; height: 18.75pt;" class=""></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="250" valign="top" style="width: 187.5pt; padding: 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.geocat.net/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="text-decoration: none;" class=""><b class="">Error! Filename not specified.</b></span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left"><tbody class=""><tr style="height: 18.75pt;" class=""><td style="padding: 0in; height: 18.75pt;" class=""></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="250" valign="top" style="width: 187.5pt; padding: 0in;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Jeroen Ticheler<br class="">Mobile: +31681286572<br class="">E-mail: <a href="mailto:jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jeroen.ticheler@geocat.net</a><br class=""><a href="https://www.geocat.net/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.geocat.net</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left"><tbody class=""><tr style="height: 18.75pt;" class=""><td style="padding: 0in; height: 18.75pt;" class=""></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="250" valign="top" style="width: 187.5pt; padding: 0in;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Veenderweg 13<br class="">6721 WD Bennekom<br class="">The Netherlands<br class="">Tel: +31318416664<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div name="messageReplySection" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">On 3 Feb 2022, 16:15 +0100, Massimiliano Cannata <<a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>>, wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="margin: 3.75pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Dear conference community,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">why is the community left out from this decision / discussion?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">The FOSS4G conference is a property of OSGeo, and therefore of the community as a whole.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">The conference committee has not been elected so cannot decide in representation of the community.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">As an OPEN community I strongly believe that all the charter members (at least) should have a word or vote on such an important decision.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">I hope this message is not ignored..<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Maxi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Il giorno gio 3 feb 2022 alle ore 15:04 Eli Adam <<a href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>> ha scritto:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Hi all (particularly voting committee members),<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">The current FOSS4G structure has a new LOC every year starting more or less from scratch (some things like mailing lists and seed money are passed on). Over the years, many people have commented on the load of work this creates for the LOC, the general inefficiency, the risk, and the burnout. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">If you consider yourself a voting member of the committee (<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Committee#Current_Members" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Committee#Current_Members</a>), please indicate your preference on this. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">This is an informal poll to see if the conference committee wants to:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">1. Keep it the way it is and not change anything<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">2. Change the FOSS4G organizing structure to something else (discussion of what we change it to can come later if people want to pursue this). <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">As I've expressed several times, I prefer option 2, changing the FOSS4G organizing structure. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Thanks for your time and participation.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Best regards, Eli<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; 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