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<p>My concern regarding this proposal is simple: The location. There
are two pages of the proposal dedicated to "internationally
connected" for Auckland, and they focus entirely on: Flying. Which
makes sense because that's the only reasonable way to get to New
Zealand, but unfortunately, it's utterly unsustainable.</p>
<p>A return trip from Munich (which I'm going to pretend is the
"middle" of Europe) to Auckland is about 5-10 tons of CO2 assuming
economy class (difference calculators say different things).
Quadruple this for Business class. Based on the historical
numbers, it looks like you can probably expect at least 100
European delegates, so that's 500-1000 metric tons of CO2 right
there. Throw in a hundred west-coast Americans (2-4 tons round
trip), and that's another 2-500 tons. Though I see your expected
international attendance from outside Oceania is actually more
than double this (380), so lets say at least 2000 tons CO2e just
from the flights.</p>
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<p>The IPCC reports are clear that we need to be drastically
reducing CO2 emissions. Carrying on with business-as-usual like
this is part of the problem and one of the reasons global
emissions continue to rise.<br>
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<p>I note that you have "Carbon Offset" via trees, at least for
attendance, though the reality is that these are generally
greenwashing exercises.</p>
<p>The online option as an alternative seems problematic for an
international audience because NZ is ~10hrs ahead of Europe and
~5-8hrs behind the Americas.<br>
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<p>Japan has similar issues, but at least they have a much larger
"local" audience, be that within the country (population 123
million), or within a short distance away (SE Asia, population: 1
billion+). They're also closer for the international audiences,
though not by much.</p>
<p>(And for the record: I'd absolutely love to go to NZ, but as I
refuse to fly for environmental reasons, it's never likely to
happen.)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hi María</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thank you so much for taking time to
go over our proposal.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>The questions you have asked are
great and I have added them and our response to the wiki
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Cheers</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Auckland 2025
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just did a first read of your
document and I want to congratulate you and your LOC for
such a beautiful proposal.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I see that you consider numbers that I
feel are a bit low for attendance (base 550, better 650,
best 750). I like that you are conservative and that the
budget stays strong with a low number, but I think that we
should be prepared for the upper number to be at least
1000, considering the historial data[1]. Is there a reason
why 750 is the higher you planned? Because even if it is
very far away from me (Spain), I see it is very close to
some of the most vibrant communities out there. I know you
mention you can expand to more rooms if needed and that
you can have a bigger plenary room, I am just curious if
I'm missing some reason behind the numbers.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I like the childcare services. As a
suggestion: are you also considering offering some tourist
package for partners?
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sometimes the codesprint is not of
interest for the majority of the audience for several
reasons (considered too technical, people are tired at the
last day and decide to just do some tourism,...). Do you
have any ideas on how to encourage participation?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear FOSS4G Conference Committee,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On behalf of OSGeo Oceania and
the Auckland Local Organizing Committee it gives me
great pleasure to submit our proposal to host FOSS4G
2025 in Auckland, New Zealand.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please find our Proposal document
attached to this email.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Additional documents including
budget have been sent to Luca to disseminate to the
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<p class="MsoNormal">Simon Nitz</p>
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