[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO logo contest - when?

Daniel Brookshier dbrookshier at collab.net
Thu Mar 9 22:03:35 PST 2006


It was filed.

Daniel Brookshier
Community Manager
214-207-6614

On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Gary Lang wrote:

> Daniel,
>
> " I well understand the issue of sending email to the wrong folks. It
> has happened to me. This is not a problem just with lists, but of
> email. "
>
> As we discussed, this argument isn't flying. We're seeing people with
> years of experience replying to the list by accident over and over.
>
> I want to file this as a bug on CN.
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Brookshier [mailto:dbrookshier at collab.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:22 AM
> To: discuss at mail.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO logo contest - when?
>
> I should point out that this is the default and what I've been  
> told, the
> only option supported for the CollabNet platform. I have put in the
> request for the option, but it is likely to be denied because it would
> require that the core platform be changed to accommodate it. It also
> goes against the philosophy of collaboration that CollabNet aspires  
> to.
> In this case, a list is seen as a conversation and we do not want to
> make it easy to have a side conversation via a replyto sender
> configuration.
>
> I well understand the issue of sending email to the wrong folks. It  
> has
> happened to me. This is not a problem just with lists, but of email.
> Even with replyto set to the sender and cc'd to the list, you can  
> still
> send a private email to everyone by hitting reply-all.
> Choice over two buttons verses one means nothing at 2 in the  
> morning, at
> least for me.
>
> When we get artificial intelligence in email clients this will be a
> non-issue.
>
> Daniel Brookshier
> Community Manager
> 214-207-6614
>
> On Mar 9, 2006, at 10:20 AM, Chris Holmes wrote:
>
>> Ah, the great reply to debate: http://producingoss.com/html-chunk/
>> mailing-lists.html#reply-to
>>
>> My preference is for not forcing replies to list.  There's no real
>> good way to debate this, as it's a classic holy war (http://
>> producingoss.com/html-chunk/common-pitfalls.html#holy-wars)
>>
>> This one is a bit more tricky since I think we had it one way when it
>> was hosted by DM, and another since we've moved to collabnet...
>>
>> Perhaps a good solution would be to poll what the lists of projects
>> that are joining the foundation use for their default reply to?
>> Whatever is in the majority becomes the default for collabnet lists.
>> But any individual project or committee is welcome to motivate to
>> change the behavior, or to set up new lists how they like.
>>
>> best regards,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Daniel Morissette wrote:
>>> Lester Caine wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Post to any list should reply to the list, if you WANT to make a
>>>> private comment it should be a matter of choice ;)
>>>>
>>> My opinion is the contrary, that forcing the Reply-To: in the  
>>> headers
>
>>> actually takes away my choice of replying off-list or via the list.
>>> When walking through hundreds of daily emails from various sources,
>>> you tend to reply quickly and a mistake can happen and a private
>>> reply ends up on a list because of the Reply-To: in the headers.  
>>> That
>
>>> happened to me Monday morning when I was not awake enough and sent a
>>> private reply to this list by accident. I have over 10 years
>>> experience dealing with lists, I am not a newbie, but forcing the
>>> replies to the list this way just makes it too easy to make a
>>> mistake.
>>>>> This probably applies to all osgeo lists
>>>>>
>>>>> Please change the list behaviour,
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Only if that is what everybody wants?
>>> My vote goes to fixing the lists (i.e. not adding the "Reply-To:"
>>> in the headers).
>>>> I MUCH prefer that all my lists reply to the list, but if you  
>>>> change
>
>>>> it, then I apologize in advance for sending people messages  
>>>> intended
>
>>>> for the list. 90% of the lists I use 'get it right' so I tend to
>>>> forget I have to change it for the FEW that do not :)
>>>>
>>> 90%? That's a lot of misconfigured lists.  ;)  ;) Daniel
>>
>> --
>> Chris Holmes
>> The Open Planning Project
>> thoughts at: http://cholmes.wordpress.com <cholmes.vcf>
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