[OSGeo-Discuss] Can we use a LiveDVD for workshops and labs atFOSS4G 2009?

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Sun Oct 19 15:22:12 PDT 2008


I see that Knoppix is debian based, like the FOSS4G 2008 LiveDVD which 
started from a xubuntu distribution.

As I understand it, there are 2 ways to build a debian based LiveDVD:
1. Bundle all packages up as .deb files, then you can apt-get the 
packages into whatever linux based distribution you wish, including 
LiveDVDs.

2. Manually install packages onto your linux computer, then take a 
snapshot of your image, as a LiveDVD.

Ideally, the .deb packaging can be rolled into each project's build 
process thus simplifying distribution and LiveDVD build processes, which 
should ease GeoFOSS installation in numerous distributions and LiveDVDs, 
and hence increase GeoFOSS uptake. This does require an initial up front 
investment from each project in setting up a .deb build process. I think 
that the investment is worth it based upon the marketing and outreach 
projects will receive. Is .deb packaging something that projects are 
interested in?


Miguel Montesinos wrote:
> JFYI
>  
> For some workshops, training courses and so on, in gvSIG, we use a Knoppix Live-DVD that runs on any PC, regardless its operative system.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Miguel Montesinos
> gvSIG Team
> PRODEVELOP
>
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> De: discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org en nombre de Dave Patton
> Enviado el: dom 19/10/2008 23:02
> Para: OSGeo Discussions
> Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can we use a LiveDVD for workshops and labs atFOSS4G 2009?
>
>
>
> On 2008/10/19 1:30 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>   
>> I'm wondering whether it will be achievable and desirable to use a
>> GeoFOSS LiveDVD as the only installed operating system at workshops
>> and labs at FOSS4G 2009.
>>     
>
>   
>> So my questions to communities are:
>>
>> Do you and your project think you would commit to packaging your
>> project into a debian based LiveDVD before FOSS4G in October 2009?
>>
>> For presenters, would you want to add tutorial material to the
>> LiveDVD, which would mean using an Open licence like Creative
>> Commons?
>>     
>
> I would start by asking a different question - does anyone
> foresee any issue with not having MS Windows available as
> an option for Workshops/Labs for FOSS4G 2009?
>
> We might not want to restrict the discussion to "OSGeo projects".
> What if a Sponsor, or Exhibitor, or 'some software company', or
> 'some non-OSGeo project' submitted a proposal to deliver a
> Workshop/Lab, and it merited consideration for inclusion in the
> conference, but it required MS Windows?
>
> Were there Workshops/Labs at FOSS4G 2008 that could not have
> been delivered without having MS Windows?
>
> If we assume that there was 'some need' for MS Windows for
> FOSS4G 2009, but that it wasn't needed for "all the PCs",
> how would people react to Workshops/Labs that required
> MS Windows also requiring a higher registration fee?
> (i.e. higher by the incremental cost of the license to
> use MS Windows on the PC for the Workshop/Lab)
>
>
> P.S.
> It helps if everyone uses the term "Instructors" when
> referring to Workshops/Labs, because "Presenter" makes
> people think of "Presentations", and sometimes that
> causes confusion.
>
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