[OSGeo-Discuss] Comparision between MapServer/OpenLayers andESRI ArcIMS

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Fantastic over view of governments using open source for a global perspective in the may issue of the "open source business resource"

But even other people using it won't convince the laggards.

Open source GIS is often implemented from the inside out and not top down.

Eventualy some can point out that ESRI ships open source libraries and tools. Then you ask the decision makers why you can't use other open source software if ESRI ships it already.

Mp is the classic example (metadata parser).

Just keep providing examples. We could go on for ever in this thread.

Cheers
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>

Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 09:52:06 
To: OSGeo Discussions<discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Comparision between MapServer/OpenLayers and
	ESRI ArcIMS


John,
Your information here is fantastic, and I'd love to see it worked into a 
case study. This is the sort of information that Government departments 
ask for all the time.

"This Open Source stuff sounds great, but who else has used it? Are 
there any case studies that we can look over?"

If you created a good case study talking about how you helped a high 
profile client move from ESRI Arc GIS server to Open Source, it would 
likely become one of the most widely referenced documents in OSGeo 
marketing.

If you do write a case study, make sure it is linked from this web page:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Case_Studies

We are also looking to see a presentation or two like this at the FOSS4G 
conference this year. This could potentially be done by a couple of 
people talking about more than one case. (Presentations are due in one 
week, on 8 June.) http://2009.foss4g.org


John Callahan wrote:
> To follow up re: status of ArcIMS
>
> I just checked the ESRI site, clicked on Products, Server GIS and 
> ArcIMS is nowhere to be found.  As well, if you select Training and 
> search for courses, you will find exactly "zero" instructor-led 
> courses for ArcIMS.   (ArcIMS is also listed under "Other Products" in 
> the Training section.)    So, as far as I'm concerned, ArcIMS is dead 
> and everything goes through ArcGIS Server with ESRI.
>
> - John
>
>
>
> Bill Thoen wrote:
>> Thanks for the help folks, especially to John Callahan. That was the 
>> best description of the problem with the ESRI solution that I've seen 
>> to date.  What they offer may be good or not --I don't have the 
>> experience to argue that point-- but they are even more expensive 
>> that I had imagined. I'm very impressed with ESRI's marketing -- if 
>> they can sell this, they could sell snow to Santa Claus!
>>
>> Regards,
>> - Bill Thoen
>
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