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color=#0000ff size=2>A number of us have this same sort of conversation in the
past, but we've never come up with anything that satisifies all concerned...
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=329231421-16072007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Perhaps a BOF/Summit/Thingie at the conference in September to talk
about this?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>-mpg</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org
[mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeroen
Ticheler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 16, 2007 2:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B> OSGeo
Discussions<BR><B>Subject:</B> [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO & OGC spec
development<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hi all,
<DIV>Last week I attended the Open Geospatial Consortium Technical Committee
(OGC-TC) meeting in Paris. </DIV>
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<DIV>For those not to familiar with this meeting, it consists of a series of
Working Group (WG) meetings that mostly run around the development of
specifications (or standards if you wish) dealing with geo-informatics. The
most prominent specifications coming from OGC are Web Map Service (WMS), Web
Feature Service (WFS) and Geographic Markup Language (GML). There's a whole
list of other specs available or under development. OSGEO projects work with a
substantial number of them. See <A
href="http://www.opengeospatial">http://www.opengeospatial</A> org for more
details.</DIV>
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<DIV>With this email I would like to touch upon two issues that I think are
relevant to OSGEO. I hope bringing this up can trigger some discussion on how
OSGEO would best benefit from the OGC spec development process:</DIV>
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<DIV>1- Discussions related to Google's KML and Web Map Context</DIV>
<DIV>2- Discussions related to a Tiled Web Map Service specifications</DIV>
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<DIV>There was discussion on the possibility that KML becomes an OGC
specification and, more importantly, that it could be used to replace
the wining Web Map Context (WMC) specification. A number of OSGEO
projects use the Styled Layer Descriptors (SLD (symbology)) specification and
the WMC. There's a great deal of overlap between these and KML. It is likely
in the interest of these projects to share their experience with OGC and see
some of that reflected in future OGC specs.</DIV>
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<DIV>There was also discussion about a new Tiled WMS specification. Such spec
can have different forms, and could be conceived as a new spec or as an
extension (or application profile) of a Web Map Service. Two approaches were
presented and two other approaches were mentioned, among which the approach
taken within the OSGEO community.</DIV>
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<DIV>Observing these discussions, my impression is that OSGEO has an important
role to play in the further development of these OGC specs. We can obviously
take the easy route and let OGC go its way. We could than come up with
in-house, open specifications that will compete with OGC specs still under
development. The development of the specs is likely to be quicker than going
through OGC. However, I feel that with limited effort by the community we can
have a very positive influence on the OGC spec development. We can make sure
experiences in OSGEO are reflected in the OGC specs. The WMS-T is an obvious
example of this. It was kind of frustrating to not see that experience
properly represented at the WMS-WG. </DIV>
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<DIV>OSGEO is very young still, so frustration is not an expression of
dissatisfaction in this case :-) rather, I think it might be time to establish
a way to formally represent OSGEO in OGC. This could be through those OSGEO
members that already hold a TC level membership to OGC (the logical first step
I would think) and later possibly through a direct OSGEO TC Membership to OGC.
Also, we could consider a focal point in OSGEO where specification development
is discussed and coordinated. This may have the form of a Committee for
instance. I'm hesitant to propose new Committees, but if there's enough
interest to have a central coordination point dealing with standards and
specs, it may make sense :-)</DIV>
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<DIV>Greetings from Rome,</DIV>
<DIV>Jeroen</DIV><BR>
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<DIV>_______________________</DIV>
<DIV>Jeroen Ticheler</DIV>
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