<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; ">gvSIG (Tyler already metioned it) is great to work with vectors. Actually, ESRI Spain don't like it because is to similar to arcGIS, in their words. I can't say, I haven't used ArcGIS, but gvSIG [1] + Sextante [2] is perfect tool to produce nice maps easily. The whole transport and infraestructure UNIT is using it. Take a look.</div>[1] <a href="http://gvsig.org">http://gvsig.org</a></span></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">[2] <a href="http://www.sextantegis.com">http://www.sextantegis.com</a></div></span> </div><br><div><div>El Apr 26, 2008, a las 9:01 AM, RAVI KUMAR escribió:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi Cameron,<br>the table of comparison is informative.<br>Most of the ARC-GIS users (my personal view) are Vector GIS users.<br>They are concerned of<br>1. Registration of Paper maps into GIS<br>2. Attribution<br>3. Analysis depending on their need.<br><br>CAD<br><br>4. Outputs of the above are also to be plotted in elegant maps with proper symbology and standard colors.<br><br>As an OSGeo enthusiast I recommend a cocktail of OS GIS software mix.<br><br><br>OpenJUMP and Qgis for steps Qgis 1 to 3<br>Qgis and GRASS for advanced analysis <br>GRASS for statistical analysis with R<br><br>OpenJUMP and Inkscape for step 4. As a geologist I get oriented structures properly symbolised and rotated (possible in OpenJUMP)<br><br>Am making some notes and soon wish to offer for downloading through GRASS and OpenJUMP websites.<br><br>Ravi Kumar<br><br><br><b><i>Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Ravi,<br>What us Open Source evangelists are missing is an honest comparison <br>between ESRI desktop applications and Open Source equivalents.<br><br>What is it about ArcView and ArcGIS that people really like, listed <br>feature by feature in a table.<br>Then identify whether Open Source covers it and how.<br>Very important is to address usability. How quickly can an Arc* user <br>migrate to Open Source?<br>My skill set is lacking here as I don't have much experience in either <br>ESRI or the Open Source desktop tools. It seems like you have experience <br>with both which puts you in a unique position.<br><br>Is this something you, or one of your students would like to investigate <br>further? Maybe build a table similar to this one:<br><a href="http://www.spatialserver.net/osgis/Desktopgis_overview.htm">http://www.spatialserver.net/osgis/Desktopgis_overview.htm</a><br><br>RAVI KUMAR wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>> this is the kind of question I face when in my lectures evangelising <br>> OS GIS.<br>> ArcGIS has many tools, though some prefer to call it a deluge of <br>> tools, which almost distance the user from understanding the concept <br>> of GIS.<br>><br>> Auto Complete Polygon:<br>> In Qgis which is a very userfriendly OS GIS you have 'Cut polygon', do <br>> try and find the difference.<br>><br>> Polygonising from lines:<br>> Open JUMP has one of the most userfriendly approaches.<br>> Create lines and polygonise in OpenJUMP and the software automatically<br>> creates a folder for Dangles (un-wanted line pieces)<br>><br>> The query is more for Vector GIS, I suppose.<br>><br>> GRASS GIS:<br>> It has so many features for Image analysis and Raster GIS, the <br>> commercial GIS need a barge pole to even touch it. The vector Part of <br>> GRASS is robust too.<br>><br>> Ravi Kumar<br>><br>><br>> */Markus Neteler <neteler@osgeo.org>/* wrote:<br>><br>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:55 PM, George R. C. Silva<br>> wrote:<br>> ...<br>> > One thing GIS OS software could have are better editing tools. I<br>> do miss<br>> > them alot, and the one is ArcGIS are unbeatable (i dont know any<br>> O.S.<br>> > software that have 'autocomplete polygon', tons of snapping<br>> options, etc -<br>> > btw, if you do, let me know).<br>> ><br>> > FOSS is great, but it lacks (IMHO) better editing options.<br>><br>> We are working on that:<br>> http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxPython-based_GUI_for_GRASS#Digitizer<br>><br>> Screenshots:<br>> http://grass.osgeo.org/screenshots/gui.php<br>> -> wxPython (new GUI)<br>><br>> You can try out the prototype in GRASS 6.3.0 (released yesterday):<br>> http://grass.osgeo.org/announces/announce_grass630.html<br>><br>> Get MacOSX, Linux and now even native MS-Windows binaries with<br>> *installer* at<br>> http://grass.osgeo.org/download/index.php#g63x<br>><br>> Enjoy<br>> Markus<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Discuss mailing list<br>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org<br>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss<br>><br>><br>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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