Dear "sunburned" Landon ;)<br><br>This is a very interesting topic. Two broad comments<br><br>1) on the <font face="Arial Narrow" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">"<i>vehicle that members from other
language groups or nations can use to accomplish more of their own goals under
the OSGeo umbrella</i>". issue:<br><br>This is what happened in Italy.<br></span></font><br>Back in Fall-Winter 2006/2007 (after the Lausanne FOSS4G) the geographic/free open source community had a very substantial online discussion on what to do in order to promote geographic/free open "stuff" in Italy.<br>
<br>The result was that we decided first to create a not-for-profit legal entity in Italy (this can be done with <600 USD at current exchange rates and operated witha lot less than 5 KUSD/year, as we have from our books).<br>
<br>We (as an association in Italy) were then acknowledged as Italian OSGEO Chapter.<br><br>We (as the majority of people who decided to take an active part in this process) thought that this was the best way to accomplish more goals at the local level (as an "association for social promotion" can formally talk to a local administrative body, or to a national authority for information society)<br>
At the same time, we retain the possibility of relating to the global community within the "OSGEO umbrella".<br><br>Localization (ooops...locali-S-ation...I am writing from Europe) is key to awareness raising. This applies to all aspects of our action.<br>
<br>The only apparent drawback I see in first creating a local organisation which then becomes a chapter of a global one, is that doing things "locally" implies a "real life" cost that plain web interaction does not.<br>
You need people to disconnect from a PC and visit government offices, accounting consultants etc, and this maybe implies being a little less visible on the global level for some time.<br><br>But, after a long 2007 to make this happen, I feel that we are heading out of this startup phase in Italy, and I trust that on the 2008 FOSS4G (at the latest) we will be able to explaing what happened, and how we expect being able to better help the global community through this approach.<br>
<br>I encourage ANY new chapter to consider this prior to opening a wiki
section on the OSGEO site as a local chapter (whiche does not mean I
don't like the OSGEO wiki).<br><br>I encourage ANY pre-existing local chapter that does not yet have a local "formal entity" to re-consider their approach (and maybe decide that they are fine without a local legal entity ;)...but as a result of a full evaluation of existing options).<br>
<br>2) <u><b>Language:</b></u> thiis may be only a relative issue.<br><br> We are now in an era where English has been dominating the scene in terms of development of operating systems and programming languages, but we have gvSIG classes being created in Spanish.<br>
<br>In other technical areas of expertise which have been around for a long time (e.g. medicine), most of the terms come from Latin and Greek, while terms from new surgery techniques come from other newer languages...in time our medical practice is improving independently of posing a "which is the best language" issue.<br>
<br>....so I guess we will see a similar evolution. Getting back on the software side of things, surely "English language inertia" can be a bottleneck to community development....let's see what can be done by leveraging existing initiatives (osgeo-edu etc. etc. etc) with a "localisation twist"<br>
<br>I'll be glad to see more thoughts on both topics from other international voices.<br><br>Andrea, aka pibinko<br><a href="http://www.pibinko.org">http://www.pibinko.org</a> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/6/12 Paulo Marcondes <<a href="mailto:paulomarcondes@gmail.com">paulomarcondes@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">2008/6/12 Landon Blake <<a href="mailto:lblake@ksninc.com">lblake@ksninc.com</a>>:<br>
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> take. Why couldn't a group in Brazil or Germany form a local chapter of the<br>
> OSGeo that is incorporated in their nation to pursue not only a common OSGeo<br>
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</div>As for Brazil, incorporating was ruled out early on, IIRC, mainly<br>
because of the high cost of running any sort of NGO or company here.<br>
At least 5k USD/year, just to exist.<br>
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