i am glad if the support services linked in the <a href="http://osgeo.org">osgeo.org</a> website also, to bring "corporate" trust<div><br></div><div>and a contact, that may be we can link to bring great branding program</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/11/25 Venkatesh Raghavan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raghavan@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp">raghavan@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi All,<br>
<br>
Nice to see responses to the intresting thread started bu<br>
Daniele.<br>
<br>
I think what Daniele is looking for is some kind of<br>
a "How to convince a venture (or social) captitalist<br>
to invest in FOSS4G technnologies and/or companies".<br>
Guess the venture capitalist would be inerested to<br>
see some statistical data on how FOSS4G based companies<br>
are growing elsewhere and what are their core business<br>
stratagies.<br>
<br>
Hope is see some intresting ideas emanating from this<br>
thread.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
<br>
Venka<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
Miles Fidelman wrote:<br>
> One more reference:<br>
><br>
> Wikipedia's history of open source<br>
> (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_history" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_history</a>) has a pretty good<br>
> discussion<br>
> of the early days of software development - when pretty much everything<br>
> was open source, but the term had<br>
> not been coined yet.<br>
><br>
> Miles<br>
><br>
> Miles Fidelman wrote:<br>
>> Charlie,<br>
>><br>
>> Charlie Schweik wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> See<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.umass.edu/opensource/schweik/Chapter_2_schweik_final_draft.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.umass.edu/opensource/schweik/Chapter_2_schweik_final_draft.pdf</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> This book still is being finalized and not yet published. If anyone on<br>
>>> this list reads this chapter, I'd appreciate any comments you may have.<br>
>>> If you Daniele, or anyone else uses content from this in some capacity,<br>
>>> I'd appreciate you contacting me so I can give you information on how to<br>
>>> cite it.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>> Since you asked.... :-)<br>
>><br>
>> A few comments:<br>
>><br>
>> 1. I seriously question the characterization of open source as primarily driven by volunteers.<br>
>> History says otherwise.<br>
>><br>
>> 2. I'd look for some better sources re. monitary support for early open source projects.<br>
>> If you look a little harder, you'll find that almost all widely-used open source software<br>
>> started with somebody who was working at a job that paid them to write an initial<br>
>> code base - be it working on a a government contract or grant, or working on software<br>
>> as in internal IT staffer.<br>
>><br>
>> The examples I always point to are:<br>
>><br>
>> - Apache (started as the NCSA web daemon)<br>
>><br>
>> - Unix (it all goes back to Bell Labs, with the BSD variations going back to Berkeley)<br>
>><br>
>> - Sendmail<br>
>><br>
>> - Postgres<br>
>><br>
>> And the list goes on. (One interesting list of very early projects: <a href="http://eu.conecta.it/paper/Some_dates_open_source.html" target="_blank">http://eu.conecta.it/paper/Some_dates_open_source.html</a>)<br>
>><br>
>> Yes, a sizeable portion of contributors are volunteers - but some historical spelunking quickly points out that most projects<br>
>> started with someone who was being paid for their time. (Richard Stallman might be the exception, though MIT provided<br>
>> for his support in various forms).<br>
>><br>
>> 3. Historically, the motivations you list as "academic and scientific motivation #2 and #3" are the earliest and oldest motivations<br>
>> for open source code - dating back to the period when government funded work automatically entered the public domain (thus<br>
>> predating the entire notion of open source licenses). Almost ALL early software was funded by the government (notably<br>
>> DARPA and NSF), was shared as academic research, and automatically entered the public domain.<br>
>><br>
>> Hope this is useful,<br>
>><br>
>> Miles Fidelman<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
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