You're absolutely right, pretend I said collaborate instead of consolidate.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Paul Ramsey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pramsey@cleverelephant.ca">pramsey@cleverelephant.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I'll do that talk, if there's really interest in it, but it has<br>
nothing to do with technology or desktops, it's sociology and<br>
psychology. And no, efforts cannot "be consolidated" (active<br>
intervention) they "may consolidate" (natural progression).<br>
<br>
P.<br>
<br>
- Why? "Because, we felt like it, and we knew better."<br>
- Pros and cons? Weighted in favor of the<br>
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Brian Russo <<a href="mailto:brian@beruna.org">brian@beruna.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> I think a more interesting presentation would be why there are so many<br>
> desktop GIS packages, the consequent pros/cons, and if/how efforts could be<br>
> consolidated.<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Stefan Steiniger <<a href="mailto:sstein@geo.uzh.ch">sstein@geo.uzh.ch</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hei all,<br>
>><br>
>> thanks for Cameron on keeping me in the loop, and to Markus for<br>
>> remembering :) I am now subscribed to this list.<br>
>><br>
>> I think Pauls idea sounds interesting - because this whole comparison<br>
>> thing is<br>
>> a) quite cumbersome when we have 10 desktop GIS (+ X), and<br>
>> b) neither really worth because desktop GIS are used for a multitude of<br>
>> tasks, while web map Servers or databases aren't that much - right?<br>
>><br>
>> So as Paul is quoted on the osgeo wiki: one needs to set up use cases<br>
>> first (just wrote that today in a new article too, which contains a section<br>
>> on selecting free GIS software). And I also discovered that just most of the<br>
>> projects have a different focus during my evaluation. Which of course does<br>
>> not mean that such thing should not be presented - but it must be focussed<br>
>> in some way or the other to have a benefit. And as a side note, I am not<br>
>> sure if measuring processing times makes sense either, as GIS analysis<br>
>> feature sets are so different.<br>
>><br>
>> However, I am in for testing with OpenJUMP.<br>
>><br>
>> Two more notes:<br>
>> - my comparison tables are now already 2 years old now (from 2007), i.e.<br>
>> need some update (but the last pub in Ecological Informatics took into<br>
>> account newer developments too, but is superficial and focused towards the<br>
>> "average" GIS users).<br>
>> - I gave a talk about this at OGRS:<br>
>> <a href="http://www.ogrs2009.org/doku.php?id=keynotes" target="_blank">http://www.ogrs2009.org/doku.php?id=keynotes</a><br>
>> pdf can be downloaded from there.<br>
>><br>
>> cheers from Germany right now (Xmas)<br>
>> stefan<br>
>><br>
>> PS: I know also of this comparison by T. Hengl et al. on Grass vs. SAGA<br>
>> for Geomorphologic Analysis<br>
>> <a href="http://www.igc.usp.br/pessoais/guano/downloads/Hengl_etal_2009_gmorph.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.igc.usp.br/pessoais/guano/downloads/Hengl_etal_2009_gmorph.pdf</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Paul Ramsey schrieb:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Interested in a different approach that is lower impact, but still<br>
>>> interesting and entertaining? Have developers review a "competing"<br>
>>> project and then present their findings, in the form of "What I love<br>
>>> about ___, what I hate about____".<br>
>>><br>
>>> Jody Garnett presents "What I love about QGIS, what I hate about QGIS."<br>
>>> Jorge Sanz presents "What I love about uDig, what I hate about uDig."<br>
>>> Tim Sutton presents "What I love about gvSIG, what I hate about gvSIG."<br>
>>><br>
>>> Not only do you get an unvarnished view, but you can have shorter<br>
>>> presentations with a discussion segment at the end of each one.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Works for almost any application category too.<br>
>>><br>
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