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      <font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS">My thoughts on the Incubation process &#40;which are in the archives over the years&#41; was generally that it was too big a step in many cases for projects to take. &nbsp;I&#39;ve always wondered about some sort of process that could last much longer and with many more steps in it before being declared fully matured. &nbsp;I&#39;ve also wondered a bit about how to monitor these matured projects after the back. &nbsp;It seems like smaller certification steps/chunks could help here as well. &nbsp;You wouldn&#39;t need to require a full review of the whoile incubation process for example.</font>    </p>
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      <font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS">This allows the community much more time to feel out and discuss a project and it&#39;s workings as well as an opportunity to guide the process where possible. &nbsp;The all or nothing option of the Incubation process has bothered me from day one. &nbsp;It also allows for at least&#44; a rudimentary &#40;public&#41; history to be captured of a projects as it&#39;s developed.</font>    </p>
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                  <span>Interaction with other committees is separate to the the incubation process currently.</span>                </p>
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                  <span>I like the idea of the straight up reward system:</span>                </p>
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                  <span>- participation &#40;provision of quick start etc gets you included on the live dvd&#41;</span>                </p>
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                  <span>- provision of course materials perhaps could allow projects to participate in education initiatives</span>                </p>
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                  <span>The incubation process is already a MASSIVE ask. Just because it is one that has had some success please do not look at it as an opportunity to ask more from participating projects.</span>                </p>
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                  <span>As an example: &quot;incubation&quot; took GeoTools years to accomplish - and is taking many other projects years as well. Please don&#39;t add more work to a process already so slow is is ineffective.</span>                </p>
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                  <span>Is there any way to start these conversations off in the other direct&#63; That is how can the live dvd project bring assistance to bear&#59; or the education committee bring volunteers together to write course materials&#63;</span>                </p>
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                  <span>Remember that these projects have one &#40;and only one primary objective&#41;: bringing code together into releasable form :-&#41;</span>                </p>
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                                Mark&#44;<br>Yes I agree that OSGeo-Live also provides a good framework for the periodic review of projects beyond incubation.<br><br>What we have on our side is:<br>1. A periodic release schedule<br>2. A valuable business driver which attracts projects to continue to work on OSGeo-Live &#40;namely the marketing value of each release&#41;<br><br>We do have the potential to <b>gradually</b>&nbsp;introduce review of incubation criteria into the OSGeo-Live release cycle.<br><br>                              </p>
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                          I was actually thinking of the reverse - incubation graduation would be contingent on getting on the OSGeo-Live disk.&#32;&#160;Agree it should be gradual&#44; should start out as a goal.                        </p>
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                        _______________________________________________<br>Discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>                      </p>
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