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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Venka:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn’t apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-mpg<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Venkatesh Raghavan<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:46 AM<br><b>Cc:</b> discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing<br><b>Subject:</b> [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members<br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html</a><br><br>and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member)<br>but not much input after that.<br><a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction</a><br><br>I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by anyone<br>on the OSGeo board.<br>See thread <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html</a><br><br>Venka<br><br><br>On 2012/05/05 21:01, Margherita Di Leo wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><pre>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>an OSGeo "ambassador", for example including the Foundation in my<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc..<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>address (or alias).<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Regards,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>madi<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></a>wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>exclusive.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>1. OSGeo Board Member<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>2. Ex OSGeo Board Member<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>3. Charter member<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>4. Voted position in an OSGeo community<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>member of a project's Project Steering Committee.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>5. OSGeo community member<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>* Name<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>* City and Country of residence<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>* Phone, Email<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>* Photo<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>* OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be responsible for<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the guidelines have been put into<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>place.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a final vote<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put into action.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the capacity of "Ambassador" for OSGeo.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and "Ambassadors" if there's<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>- personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>- @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used as their<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>primary address<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>- interviews on the main blog<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>- a track record of their public activity wrt OSGeo promotion, software<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>development, management, documentation and what else<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>In this way the charter members could gain a higher visibility in the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>wider geospatial community and be recognised as official representatives.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Ciao<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>steko<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>BTW is there any process in place to "remove" charter members if they<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>become inactive, move to another planet or are deemed unfit for the purpose<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>by the community?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>______________________________**_________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Discuss mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss"><http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss></a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>On 20/04/12 07:24, Cameron Shorter wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>On 20/04/2012 4:06 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Do we have any policies and cost structures for the Ambassador function<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>yet?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I've seen a few people talking about creating an OSGeo Ambassador role.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Arnulf I think might have been the first to mention it, and I think it is<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>an excellent idea. I'm also aware that the OGC are considering developing<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>OGC ambassadors too.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>So I'd like to open the floor and see what people think an ambassador's<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>role could involve, which leads into the qualities we would wish our<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ambassador's to have, which leads into the ways we may select an ambassador.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Let me start by noting some of the driving factors:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>1. Arnulf has noted that as OSGeo president, he has spent a significant<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>amount of time on areoplanes travelling around the world to talk on behalf<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>of OSGeo. He has suggested that this role should be shared.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Conference organisors, who have a primary goal of attracting attendees,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>look for authoritative figureheads to talk at conferences. They are<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>expected to have a deep insight into a specific domain, such as OSGeo. They<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>should also speak well, even better if they are entertaining.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>2. OSGeo is a sexy topic has many conferences, and there are hundreds, if<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>not thousands of conferences around the world which would like to see an<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>OSGeo presence.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>3. OSGeo is fortunate to draw membership from around the world, including<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>boasting a number of very healthy local chapters. As such, we are likely to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>have potential ambassadors in most counties. (We might be a bit short in<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Antarctica)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>4. There are times when negotiating MOUs or similar with other countries,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>it would be useful to have someone local speak with authority on behalf of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>OSGeo.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>5. Note that there are conflicting interests here of wanting to open up<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the role for anyone who volunteers, verses maintaining a selectiveness and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>prestige for the role which is the key selection criteria for conferences<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>asking for an ambassador.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>As such, I think it important that ambassadors can only be voted into the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>position, and not handed out to anyone. We already vote for a board, and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>charter members.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I think board members should be considered ambassadors by default.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Should charter members be considered ambassadors? Charter members only<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>get this role after demonstrating a commitment to OSGeo, so will likely<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>have a reasonable depth of OSGeo knowledge. Maybe we should ask for a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>history of speaking well (as demonstrated at conferences), to the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ambassador criteria.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Then lastly, do we wish to invite ambassadors from a greater circle? At<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>this point, I'd probably err on saying no, as if the entry bar to becoming<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>an ambassador is too easy, then the mystic of the role will be lost.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cameron Shorter<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Geospatial Solutions Manager<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Think Globally, Fix Locally<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.lisasoft.com">http://www.lisasoft.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>______________________________**_________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Discuss mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss"><http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss></a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Discuss mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>