Hello,<br><br>Thanks for discussing this important topic.<br><br>The last global FOSS4G editions gathered on average 800+ attendees i think. I have no clues on how many of them sumitted or attended the academic track, but i know that this side of the conference is really important, and that the rules should not be changed without discussion or without some voting by the Academic and Conference comitees. Of course it won't necessarly bring some new sponsors or direct business output each year, but it has been part of FOSS4G since its inception in 2006, and even before, from 2004 since the first GRASS and MapServer meetings, with all the motivated activists, developers, researchers and professors we know.<br>
Also there are so many active people that are using, developping and promoting the use of FOSS4G in academia, education and research nowadays, so the academic session should be improved, or at least not be changed like this, IMHO.<br>
<br>An important point is that the Academic Commitee was always formed before the call for Abstract and the selection and reviewing process, as Maxi and Venka pointed out.<br>I've participated to the academic track since 2008, and once again as Maxi said, i've also always sumitted an abstract first, then been acepted or rejected by the comitee, and then finally submited a full paper (or a poster) some time before the conference.<br>
After that, none of my papers were published in any journals (ok, may be they were bad i reckon, but what about the others ?). I know that that there were a few intiatitives to publish some of the papers, but i could never read the academic FOSS4G procedings in any scientific journals i know (i'm may be wrong once again, but could someone bring some facts on this ? How many papers where finally published since 2006 and where ?), or may be in the OSGeo journal i just don't know, sorry.<br>
<br>This being said, i fully understand that calling, selecting, reviewing and publishing papers takes a long time. This is really true, but what the LOC is targeting this time ? How many papers could be really published ? What journal exactly ? Should i subscribe to the University of Sherwood to be hopefully published (private joke) ? <br>
And who will take care of this very time-consuming task ? Who is being called for particpating to the Academic comittee (would it be public soon btw) ? Who will organize and chair the different sessions of the Academic Track exactly ? I'm sorry for so much questions, but i think that would be interesting to know right now for submiters or potential authors, before one week, before trying to submit in fact.<br>
<br>Anyway, i'm also thinking that these new rules and such a short deadline would just refrain submissions to the Academic track, and would finally make it poorer. I think that many professors, researchers and students won't sumit or will be more comfortable with subitting to the general track, just to avoid impossible deadlines and writing efforts, not being sure to be published somewhere. That'd just be a pitty.<br>
<br>Sorry for such a long email<br><br>Best regards,<br><br>Nick<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/1/25 Massimiliano Cannata <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<div>FWIW, I have to say that as far as i remember (and I participate at all of the FOSS4G meeting from Bangkok to Denver) I always:</div>
<div><div>- submitted and abstract, </div><div>- got acceptance or not as presenter, </div>
<div>- provided a paper for proceeding, and if selected for publication.</div><div><br></div><div>In Denver this process led me to a publication in 2012 and the deadline was "<span style><font face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.046875px">31 Jul 2011, Full Paper (Academic Track) submission deadline", and the academic committee was set far before of this.</span></font></span></div>
<div><span style="line-height:19.046875px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height:19.046875px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif">Said that, I know I'm not forced to submit scientific works to the scientific track (and this is what i'm going to do), but it is still a pity from my point of view to set possible barriers and loose contribution.</span></div>
<div><span style="line-height:19.046875px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><font face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.046875px">That's just my 2 cents.</span></font></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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