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<br><div><div>On May 17, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Paul van Genuchten <<a href="mailto:paul.vangenuchten@geocat.net">paul.vangenuchten@geocat.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Hi list a<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">t the 2013 edition
of Geospatial World Forum
held in Rotterdam 13-16 may 2013 OSGeo cohosted a seminar on
Open Source (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://geospatialworldforum.org/2013/open_pr.htm">http://geospatialworldforum.org/2013/open_pr.htm</a>).
This
document shortly describes the key points raised in each
presentation.</span></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></b><p class="MsoNormal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></b></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing">Chair/Organiser: Paul van Genuchten -
GeoCat/<a href="http://OSGeo.nl">OSGeo.nl</a> - NL <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Just vd
Broecke - <a href="http://OSGeo.nl">OSGeo.nl</a> board - NL <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Just
gave an introduction to 'Open', touching on open data, open
standards, open
source and open communities. Also he pointed out the parts of
the software
value chain where Open Source companies generally make their
earnings, since
the usual business case of selling licenses does not apply here.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Marjan
Bevelander - Dutch Provinces - NL <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Marjan
presented on the open source strategy by the cooperating Dutch
regional governments.
She explained this on two recent projects, the implementation of
Inspire
Directive and the revitalization of Flamingo Geo CMS.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Mark
Vloermans - Flamingo Geo CMS Community - NL <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Mark
then continued with his efforts to put a vivid community in
place to support
the Flamingo Geo CMS. He claimed a system as user friendly as
this, is very
important for the Open Source Sector, since the sector has a
very technical
feel.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Chris
van Lith - B3Partners - NL <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">As one
of the partners responsible for implementing Flamingo Geo CMS,
Chris continued
with the design motivation of the CMS platform behind Flamingo
Geo CMS. Recent
developments around their former Flash based Viewer led him to
claim that any
GIS framework should prepare for the inevitable: Any component
of a product can
get outdated. In that case you'd need to be productive with a
new component
asap, by limiting the dependencies between components and have
components
interact using Open Standards. For example OpenLayers, now basis
of many map
viewing frameworks, will soon be replaced by either OpenLayers
3, Leaflet, D3
or ...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Simone
Giannecchini - GeoSolutions - IT <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Simone
introduced us to the world of enterprise support on open source
geospatial
infrastructures. You'll get the best support from the people
actually involved
in the projects, in his case geotools, geoserver, geonetwork.
Stay away from
forks and vampires, in the end they are no better than
proprietary software.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Arnulf
Christl – Metaspatial - DE <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Arnulf
set up his presentation around Open Data. Types of open data
where explained
(Community driven, Government Data, Proprietary Data in a
Freemium Model (open
content?)), types of data licenses (ODBL, Gov Open Data, CCO)
and options these
open data licenses offer to SME to create new business
opportunities. As an
example he showed us a map based on Open Street Map and Ordinate
Survey data
printed on a piece of water resistant cloth. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://metaspatial.net/conferences/gwf2013_opendata.html">http://metaspatial.net/conferences/gwf2013_opendata.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Andrew Ross
- Eclipse Foundation Inc - CA <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Andrew
pointed our attention to the importance of having a foundation
to manage an
open source software project as it gets bigger. Some existing
foundations exist
where one can register a project. The Eclipse foundation
recently started a
locationtech workinggroup for geospatial initiatives.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Paolo
Cavallini – Faunalia - IT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Paolo
notified us on some recent developments in QGIS. His first
inventarization
learned that over 50% of the participants in the room have used
QGis at some
time. Recent developments include a QGIS server implementation
(WMS,WFS,WFS-t),
a central repository with plugin's, a templated client plot
(which can also be
used in server implementation), labels based on expressions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Jorge
Samuel Mendes de Jesus - ISRIC World Soil Information - NL <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">ISRIC
operates a global database with soil profiles under GEOSS. The
infrastructure
for storing, converting, managing and accessing the profiles is
based mainly on
Open Source products like Geoserver, pyWPS, Geonetwork, PostGIS
and Django.
ISRIC has many temporary international students and they seem to
replicate the
ISRIC architecture at their home institutes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Oliver
Morris & Alex Rushfort - Neftex Inc - UK <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Neftex
provides geological data services to the mining industry. They
operate a
geological world model ranging back to 600m bc. They use an Open
Source stack
to deliver the frequently updated data to their customers. The
stack contains
PostGis, Geoserver and a WebMapper based on
OpenLayers/GeoEXT/GXP. Compared to their
former platforms open source facilitated them to do advanced
spatial
representations (like display in a polar projection) without the
interface
getting complicated and without substantial loss of performance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Discussion
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">With
only a few minutes left we discussed how open source components
can operate
together with proprietary products in any SDI. It appears to be
actually the
other way around, you won't find any SDI that does not contain
open source
components, being it Linux, Apache, GDAL, Mapserver, PostGIS,
QGIS, R and/or
Leaflet/Openlayers. Another question from the public stated that
many standards
registered at OGC/ISO are actually not that 'open', and would
not really fit in
today's track. However it's like open data and open source, you
have many
degrees of 'open'. There is no yes-no answer to that. For sure
ISO standards
require a fee to download and to vote for an OGC standard, you
have to be a
full member. However the idea behind the standards is to open up
the products
involved to facilitate interoperability, which fits very nicely
in the 'open'
strategy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Conclusion<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">We had a
wide range of presentations today, however some keywords where
repeated through
all presentations. OGC standards like WMS/WFS/CSW, Open Data and
components
like GDAL, OpenLayers, Geonetwork, Geoserver provide enough
collectivity to share experiences. It stroke me that in many
presentations it was
mentioned that local organizations which before wouldn't want to
work together,
actually start cooperating these days, mayor initiatives like
GEOSS and Inspire
seem to be a main trigger in that process. With an attendance
ranging from </span><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">25
to 50</span> the seminar was quite well visited (considering
the 8! parallel tracks), and the exposure as 'conference
partner' was quite high. However the investments were also quite
substantial (mainly due to all speakers needing to pay a
considerable entrance fee). Next year the forum will be held in
Geneva (may 2014), anybody interested in taking the lead for
this one?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span></b></p>
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