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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you for your responses and insights. I’ll try to provide some more context – we have recently completed a new development effort that builds on open source software. Specifically, the UI platform is built on Liferay (</span><a href="http://www.liferay.com/">http://www.liferay.com/</a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>) with PrimeFaces and jQuery, we’re using the Open Identity Stack for ICAM/IdAM (</span><a href="http://forgerock.com/products/open-identity-stack/">http://forgerock.com/products/open-identity-stack/</a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>), Postgres for the DB, and Apache CXF for REST/SOAP web service interfaces (in addition to GeoNetwork’s services). The system is being transitioned to an operational partner and has been funded by The Department of Homeland Security Science and Technology Directorate (DHS S&T). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There may be an opportunity to completely open source the system, which would require some additional development to fully support the CS-W interface. Based upon the responses I’ve received so far (thanks again), it seems like there may be some interest, but I think DHS S&T may need a stronger expression of interest from OSGeo to move forward. If there’s interest, I could try to schedule a webex meeting to show the system.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul Breimyer, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Technical Staff, Surveillance Systems<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>MIT Lincoln Laboratory<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(781) 981-0923 (work)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(781) 879-8675 (cell)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:pbreimyer@ll.mit.edu"><span style='color:#1F497D'>paul.breimyer@ll.mit.edu</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Brent Wood [mailto:pcreso@pcreso.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 05, 2014 2:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Breimyer, Paul - 0442 - MITLL<br><b>Cc:</b> discuss@lists.osgeo.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Possible CS-W Portal Opportunity<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Similar situations have occurred before - The Bluenet MEST fork created an alternative version of Geonetwork, with some extra capabilities to meet specific needs. Development was kept (largely) consistent with trunk Geonetwork, and was later merged back into Geonetwork trunk, IMHO, creating a product with the best of both. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The Bluenet MEST developers are still major contributors to Geonetwork (Thanks Simon!).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Assuming Geonetwork does provide a useful foundation to build on to meet your needs, I urge you so look for common ground & pool resources to improve the existing tool. Only consider developing a new application if this first approach is not viable.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I have also come across another situation which may be relevant. While evaluating options for such catalogues, both Geonetwork & CKAN (both Open Source) were considered. Geonetwork was found to have better interoperability & harvesting capability, while CKAN had front-end capabilities that were desirable. One possible solution that went a long way to meeting requirements was to use both - Geonetwork as the harvesting/aggregating tool for a CKAN based catalogue. I don't know if such a combination would be suitable in your case, but figured it was worth mentioning.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I also suggest you ask your question on the Geonetwork developers list (<a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geonetwork-devel">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geonetwork-devel</a>) if you have not already done so.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>OSGEO generally adopts already widely used tools rather than supporting new developments, see the incubator page for information - <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/index.html">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/index.html</a>. I note that Jeroen Ticheler, the original developer of Geonetwork is a member of the OSGEO incubation committee, it may be worth discussing your situation directly with him. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Brent Wood<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><br>On 2/3/14, Breimyer, Paul - 0442 - MITLL <<a href="mailto:paul.breimyer@ll.mit.edu">paul.breimyer@ll.mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br>> My name is Paul Breimyer and I work for MIT Lincoln Laboratory, a<br>> government<br>> research lab (FFRDC). We are building what is effectively a secure CS-W<br>> portal interface for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). I'm<br>> writing<br>> to see if OSGeo might be interested in the portal if it were open sourced<br>> appropriately. As part of this work we reviewed GeoNetwork: the backend<br>> services were well implemented, but we found the portal to be lacking<br>> capabilities that were necessary (at least for our use cases). There may<br>> be<br>> an opportunity to enhance the GeoNetwork portal to facilitate broader<br>> adoption of the CS-W standard. Please let me know if there's interest to<br>> learn more.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Thanks,<br>><br>> Paul<br>_______________________________________________<br>Discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>