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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Paul,<br>
I echo Bruce's sentiment, in that I suspect the you might be
asking the wrong questions about the value of Open Sourcing.<br>
<br>
Should you Open Source your code?<br>
* Making code available to the Open Source community will always
be welcomed.<br>
<br>
* However, handing the code over to OSGeo (or any other volunteer
community) and expecting the community to maintain the code is
most likely going to result in the codebase being ignored and
forgotten.<br>
<br>
* If you wish to make sure the code continues to be maintained and
improved, then you would be best to identify a business model for
maintaining the code. This usually involves identifying sponsors -
organisations who want what you have, and are prepared to pay
developers to nurture and improve the code.<br>
<br>
* One business model which sometimes works is for the originating
organisation to Open Source their code, make sure the code is
generic enough for other organisations to use, MARKET the codebase
to attract users, sponsors and maintainers. Once other developers
are helping maintain your codebase, you will reap the benefit of
reduced maintenance costs. You will also avoid having to
end-of-life your product in 10 years time, when you are forced to
migrate to another more successful Open Source product.<br>
<br>
* I suggest you look at OSGeo's requirements for project
incubation, which identifies core factors for successful Open
Source projects. Note also that giving your project to OSGeo would
involve taking the project through this incubation process, and
working out the funding model to do so:<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
On 08/02/14 00:46, Breimyer, Paul - 0442 - MITLL wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bruce,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Fair
question, and at this point, I’m not sure. I don’t
represent DHS S&T, but I’m trying to see if there’s
interest from OSGeo to explore a tech transfer of the
project to OSGeo. Basically, the work has largely been done
and I’m trying to determine if the broader community could
benefit from it. Given the feedback I’ve heard so far, I
think it could be valuable to have a dialog with DHS S&T
and an OSGeo representative to talk about what the transfer
model might be (e.g., the approaches you described), but I’m
not sure who would be the appropriate OSGeo contact. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Paul
Breimyer, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Technical
Staff, Surveillance Systems<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">MIT
Lincoln Laboratory<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(781)
981-0923 (work)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(781)
879-8675 (cell)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Bruce Bannerman [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com">mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 06, 2014 5:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Breimyer, Paul - 0442 - MITLL;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Fwd: FW: [OSGeo-Discuss] Possible CS-W
Portal Opportunity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Paul,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I noted
your last paragraph below, which does ring alarm bells for
me.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What is the intent of this approach? Is
it:<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1">To potentially launch a piece of software as
an open source project that DHS S&T will sponsor and
support through the incubation process until the project
becomes self sustaining; or<o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo2">To declare some software that DHS S&T has
developed as open source with a view for OSGeo, or some
other party, to pick it up, sponsor and support it through
the incubation process, with DHS S&T hoping to get the
software maintained by others with little or no
involvement by DHS S&T.<o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p>I'm unclear of the intent behind the approach from your
email.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>I suspect that you would receive a more favourable response
if it was the first option above. You may even find that an
existing project that works in this space may pick up the
software if it is appropriate for their long term road map.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Bruce<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Subject:
</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Re:
[OSGeo-Discuss] Possible CS-W Portal
Opportunity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There
may be an opportunity to completely open
source the system, which would require
some additional development to fully
support the CS-W interface. Based upon
the responses I’ve received so far
(thanks again), it seems like there may
be some interest, but I think DHS
S&T may need a stronger expression
of interest from OSGeo to move forward.
If there’s interest, I could try to
schedule a webex meeting to show the
system.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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