<div dir="ltr"><div><div>I guess the quick answer is that the Eclipse Foundation is not new :) You can watch a lots of organisations starting to take on location as GIS goes more mainstream. OGC is working with W3C, Eclipse has LocationTech, Apache has a spatial information systems group.</div><div><br></div><div>Personally I think using the word "SpatialIT" or "Location" or "spatial isn't special" is part of the the rest of IT catching up with us in the GIS industry. I am really keen to see the big data players starting to working with location - as they represent one of the first IT groups that do not run away scared at our data volumes :) I had expected the BI crowd to make an impact earlier, but they got distracted by big data. I have not managed to figure out where the "internet of things" is going to intersect with mapping - but I saw a great talk at FOSS4G 2013, and it was a hot topic at a couple other conferences I have attended.</div><div><br></div><div>I expect the Board was aware or contacted, but the interesting thing is how to best serve as part of this larger trend.</div><div>--</div><div>Jody</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I touched </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Richard Greenwood <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richard.greenwood@gmail.com" target="_blank">richard.greenwood@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I don't get it, and my question is moot at this point in time, but why do we need a new foundation? Why couldn't OSGeo have provided what LocationTech purports to provide? Was there any discussion, or awareness, in the OSGeo board prior to the formation of LocationTech?<br><br></div>Rich<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jeff McKenna <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Arnulf,<br>
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I definitely agree that both foundations fill a role and need to exist.<br>
<br>
The point I am trying to make is that we have the power to change OSGeo, if we feel some needs are not being met well.<br>
<br>
I used too strong of words again, I am sorry.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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-jeff</font></span><div><div><br>
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On 2014-09-15 2:59 PM, Arnulf Christl wrote:<br>
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Jeff,<br>
I believe that Daniel is actually right in what he says - given that I<br>
understand the point he is trying to make. There are differences<br>
between OSGeo and LocationTech and trying to talk them away will not<br>
get us anywhere. And its not "bad" or "goo" either way, we just<br>
operate differently.<br>
<br>
The point is that in OSGeo you cannot move anything at all as a<br>
business, not directly. In LocationTech you become a corporate member,<br>
pay money and in return have influence over certain things and get<br>
support. Directly geared towards your specific needs. OSGeo does none<br>
of those things.<br>
<br>
As an individual (with or without business) you can become the<br>
committee chair and an OSGeo officer with absolutely no preconditions,<br>
no money needed, no organizational backing and no other hierarchy.<br>
Just because othes think you are doing a cool job and have accumulated<br>
enough merit to go ahead as a leader. This would not work in this way<br>
in LocationTech.<br>
<br>
Both ways have reasons to exist and are good. Right?<br>
<br>
Cheers.<br>
Arnulf<br>
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Am 2014-09-15 10:45, schrieb Jeff McKenna:<br>
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On 2014-09-15 1:22 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:<br>
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the members in OSGeo are individuals and the members in<br>
Eclipse/LocationTech are businesses<br>
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<br>
Daniel this statement is not true, regarding OSGeo. OSGeo members<br>
are made up of all walks of life, and many are running private<br>
businesses all around the world. I have visited their<br>
organizations/offices myself in my FOSS4G travels throughout the<br>
years.<br>
<br>
However I cannot change how you feel.<br>
<br>
This part is unfortunate, these strong statements made publicly,<br>
which I feel are made to divide our community.<br>
<br>
Let me reinforce: our OSGeo community and our FOSS4G events (of<br>
all sizes) are geared for everyone and anyone, with no sole focus<br>
on one type of community. And as the President of OSGeo, I am<br>
happy to represent all of the members, of any kind :)<br>
<br>
-jeff<br>
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